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Choral Potpourri: Choral Ethics; Envy and Jealousy

July 28, 2016 -

“The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves.” William Penn In preparation for writing the blog post today, I looked up the

Hi everyone!
Potential touchy subject...

I am a high school director in Northern VA with 6 choirs. Only 2 of the choirs don't include the words "men", "women's", or "ladies."

I have students who identify as either male or female, but are placed in their choir according to their (birth) sex which is listed on their transcripts. The singers said they were "OKAY" with their placements because they would be in the classes with other students with similar voice parts. Even though they said this, I know I will keep a close eye on their well-being this year, and in the future.

My question for you is - Do you have any suggestions on what to rename my choirs so that they don't conform into the gender binary?
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Joel Adam ShapiroWhat about Treble Choir instead of Women's/Ladies' etc?

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My-Van NguyenWe're seriously choral twins. Have been considering this all summer!

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Joel Adam ShapiroInstead of Men's Choir, maybe give it a unique name relating to your school/mascot?

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Douglas NeslundOh for God's sake, people! Don't let the political correctness infect and pollute our youngsters. Enough of this mind twisting junk!!!

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Jason LongtinI think coming up with fun, creative names for each group is the best solution. This actually comes up in church choir all the time. Lots of church ladies sing tenor (even bass...I sit next to one), so we have to be mindful of not calling the TB section "Men."

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Tyler ForsytheFor my creative juices to flow, I need to know your school mascot and school colors. Additionally, any unique or interesting characteristics about your school or town would be helpful. (For example, if the town's festival is called Stucco Days, that could be useful in naming the choirs.)

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Joel Adam ShapiroDefinitely don't name it after the Occoquan :)

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Martin LassmanI struggled with this, too. Having a transitioning person in the Women's Choir was awkward for me and him. I tried SSAA but no one knew what that meant. I ended up with Treble and Advanced Treble choirs. Since I teach middle school, this has not been an issue with the Men's Choir. Their voices will not allow transitioning students to sing in the male range.

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Rhonda JulianoThank you for being aware of your students needs and well being. I also suggest that you come up with a great name that your students will relate to and feel good about singing in.

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Susanna Lace PeeplesI believe Josh Palkki knows a lot on this subject as he gave a session at ACDA on LGBT issues in the choral classroom.

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Michael McGlynnNot sure what the issue really is here - low voice choir/high voice choir.

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