Musicals: Musicals with small pit orchestras
I received quite a deal of replies on this. Thank you very much for your expertise. Here are the responses:
__________________________________ godspell fantasticks you're a good man charlie brown something's afoot (spoof on agatha christie's 10 little indians) man of la mancha (i did it with piano, a few winds, bass, percussion, and arranded most of the string parts for satb chorus... having a trumpet would help) almost any show can be scaled down if you have a great pianist who knows when to lay out. __________________________________
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum can be done with relatively limited numbers - one flute, 2 clarinets, a couple trumpets, bass, piano, percussion.
Little Shop of Horrors requires drums, bass, guitar, and piano
Schoo House Rock can be done with just drums, bass, guitar, and piano.
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We face a similar problem. Maybe you've already thought of this but we've used some of the Rodgers and Hammerstein shows which have the two-piano arrangement. That is complete in itself but I usually add some extra instruments such as bass, percussion, maybe a woodwind or two and a brass or two. Kind of depends on the show. The two-piano arrangement gets all the parts covered and the addition of the other instruments adds color and power when you want it. R & H will rent the two-piano accompaniment and will permit you to rent a few extra individual parts. I think there are a few other shows which have two-piano accompaniment versions available. "My Fair Lady" comes to mind. Having a two-piano accompaniment with the addition of rhythm and some instruments for color has been pretty successful for us. __________________________________
i have been conducting pit orchestras for the past 10 years and have made most work with the resources i had available. our pit physically is small so i have worked only with 2 flutes, 2 clarinets, trap set, 2 trumpets, 2 trombones and 2 keyboards - one synthesizing the strings (no room for strings in this pit because of size restrictions) and the other to fill in the spaces in missing parts. i did the string keyboard and directed and it has worked well. but for small pit bands, how about the fantasticks. we used the above instrumentation for: carousel, sound of music, my fair lady, camelot, fiddler on the roof, pippin, and oklahoma. i think you can do a lot now with synthesizers.... hope this is of some help. __________________________________
Have you looked into "Once On This Island?" It can be done with 4 reeds, 2-3 percussion, and a synth. We did it this year and loved it!! __________________________________
I have at home a listing of the top XX musicals, and almost uniformly the small orchestras are in the Rock musicals like "Little Shop." Any of the standard musicals will use the standard New York pit orchestra, the size of which was long mandated by union regulations as well as the size of the pits. __________________________________
I played trumpet in "Mysteries of Edwin Drood" with piano, percussion, trumpet, clarinet, flute, bass, and maybe one or two other instruments.
It worked fine, although the score calls for many more insts. I don't know if this was an actual reduction or they just omitted the extra parts. __________________________________
"The Fantasticks" has the smallest orchestra, of course, but it also has the smallest cast. I think "Charlie Brown" has just a combo. I don't think that "A Little Night Music" has a big orchestra, either, but I'm not sure.
We usually have room for between 11 and 13 players in our pit. We do the standard musicals (such as the Rogers and Hammerstein chestnuts), and simply leave out some of the instruments. Various people "cover" for other instruments, playing their cues, when possible. We have a great pianist who fills in what's missing. We don't use a synth, because there are only a few people in our neck of the woods who know how to play synth, and they seem always to be busy. Now, of course, there are new services, such as "Orch-extra," (See Music Theater International), which fill in the missing parts via a computer hook-up to a sound system. It even responds to your tempo changes, somehow. We don't do that either because we don't have the necessary equipment. But I guess it's getting popular. __________________________________
3 shows come to mind. Shows with smaller pits usually have smaller casts also. They are Dames at Sea, this can easily be done with 2 pianos and rhythm section; Your a Good Man Charlie Brown can be done with rhythm section; and Something's a Foot which can be done with a rhythm section. __________________________________
Actually, most musicals can be done with piano, bass guitar or string bass (I find the first better because of volume) and trap set. Depending in the show, a wind instrument or two would add color.. __________________________________
Your A Good Man Charlie Brown is a good musical that has the option of a small pit (if my memory serves me correctly, there is full orchestral and combo orchestrations). I think that the combo orchestration has Piano, Flute, Drum, and Bass. We did it (Jr. High) with piano, flute, and percusison _________________________________
This is to the person asking about musicals with small orchestras, whose message I have unfortunately deleted. (N.b., theater people refer to the orchestra as "the pit." Musicians uniformly resent and feel insulted by that terminology. Not a matter of political correctness, just common courtesy!)
This is pulled from a "List of Best Known Musicals" I happen to have. I've picked out the shows with fewer than 20 specified in the orchestra. The pickings are pretty slim, and some may not be suitable for high school production. Some may have special needs difficult to fill in a high school production, like harp, classical guitar, or rock-capable musicians who can read music. 19 Of Thee I Sing 18 Anything Goes Brigadoon Bye Bye Birdie Hello Dolly Oliver 17 Babes in Arms Cabaret Guys & Dolls Man of La Mancha 11 The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas 7 Grease Little Shop of Horrors _________________________________________
There's always "You're a good Man, charlie Brown", "The Fantasticks", and "Godspell". "The Boyfriend" is also a good one--especially if you can find a banjo player--we did it with piano, drums & banjo. If you have a decent pianist, you can get away with any musical as long as you can throw in a bass and drums. _________________________________________
The first thing that popped into my head is the wonderful "You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown." If there's a problem, it's that it also features a small cast. The upside is that it's a smart, charming, off-beat and nearly timeless piece of material. Go on Google and learn about its recent revival, and if you choose an original cast recording, by all means get the earlier one from the 70s.
Amazon has them in stock. Good luck. _________________________________________
"The Boyfriend" is quite good, requiring about 11 or so, and much of the cast is supposed to be high-school age or so. (MTI) It's an hommage to 1920's musicals, so don't expect much depth, but it's a show I've wanted to do again for decades. _________________________________________
"Working" Piano, bass, drums, second keyboard if desired. "Little Shop" Same as above "Leader of the Pack" Basic Rock band, 2 guitars, bass, drums, etc. "Diamond Studs"--Country & western band with banjo. _________________________________________
suds....week plot....but requires 1 keyboard, rhythm guitar, bass guitar and drums. all 60's and 70's songs. Do not recall who composed suds. _________________________________________
Two thoughts:
1. Fantasticks: no chorus
2. Robber Bridegroom: Bluegrass band
I hate to even say this, but you could use synth strings instead of live strings, and hire only winds/perc. _________________________________________
Two of the top of my head: Little Shop of Horrors is rhythm section only -- drums, piano, bass, and maybe guitar.
Once On This Island is 7 instruments: soprano sax, piano, synthesizer, flute/alto flute, guitar, bass, drums. __________________________________________
"Time and Time Again" is a fun musical, 50's setting, that we did rather well with a limited pit. I do most of my musicals without a pit, usually piano, so others I have done would work too. Snoopy or You're a Good Man Charlie Brown both fair nicely to small or no pit. Time and Time Again is available through Samuel French I believe. The kids and the audience really enjoyed this one. __________________________________________
The obvious choices are things like, "Godspell," "Little Mary Sunshine," "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown," and ANY musical revue such as "Rodgers and Hart, a musical celebration," or "Red, Hot, and Cole," __________________________________________
Thank you for all your responses.
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