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solfege at an early age

 Does anyone know how early to start students with using solfege and good techniques in introducing it?
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on October 26, 2009 6:22pm
Hi, Claire.
 
My advice would be to search for some Kodály summer workshops with top notch clinicians, and all your questions will be answered.  My late wife used introductory Kodály methodology with lower elementry school children, starting with "sol-mi" calls, I believe, but it's the WAY the methodology is used that's important.
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on April 17, 2012 5:38pm
the Kodaly method is definitely the best way to go!
on October 27, 2009 6:08am
Earlier in my career teaching elementary music, I used solfege and curwen hand signs as early as Kindergarten.  The key for that age group is to limit the complexity of the patterns: (ie. "so - mi", "so - la - so - mi", patterns within the pentatonic scale).  Familiar folk songs work well to reinforce these patterns.  As a secondary vocal music instructor, I strongly encourage elementary music teachers to use solfege to help teach these common melodic patterns found in all music.  It is a bit disturbing that when I get them too many of them have lost this ability to easily call and respond to these simple melodic patterns.  A part of this problem is a lack of directed communication between the teachers at the schools throughout the school system where I teach.  I hope this helped.  (Sorry for the side tangent.)
on March 11, 2010 10:52pm
I first remember learning solfege when I was six.  We started off by singing the song from The Sound of Music, and then we played around with hand signs afterward.  Nothing fancy, but I do not remember ever being uncomfortable with solfege.
on March 11, 2010 7:22pm
I hate to tell you this, Jessica, but "Doe, a Deer" is a HORRIBLE way to introduce solfege.  For one thing the lyrics, clever as they are and a tribute to Oscar Hammerstein, work ONLY in English and would have been totally impossible in the Austrian German that the REAL von Trapp family would have spoken!
 
But if it worked for you, all the better.  And you're right; Kodaly introduced it as soon as children started school.
 
John
 
 
on March 12, 2010 5:50am
But for an class of English-speaking students, it seems that the fact that the lyrics only work in English should not be an obstacle.  What are other problems with using Doe a Deer?
 
Sincerely,
__Sharon
on March 12, 2010 6:44am
Perhaps because it has "so" (or "sew") rather than "sol," and "ti" rather than "si?"
on March 12, 2010 9:36am
Sharon:  I've never considered using the song to teach solfege, so I don't have a quick answer, but I think Jerome is correct.  Oscar Hammerstein used homonyms, so what the children will learn are misspelled homonyms in English (and my college students STILL have a great deal of trouble with homonyms!) rather than the ancient and infinitely useful solfege syllables derived from a 10th century hymn to St. John the Baptist:
 
Doe instead of Do
Ray instead of Re
Me instead of Mi
Far instead of Fa
Sew instead of Sol
[I can't remember what "La" is in the song; in fact I don't think he found a word that worked!]
and Tea instead of Ti (or of course the alternative Si, not so much used in the U.S. and pehaps unknown to Hammerstein, and of course the "missing note" in Guido's system)
 
It's kind of hard to improve the basic system developed by Guido d'Arezzo in the 11th century, and still in use (in one form or another) a millenium later!  But Hammerstein's oversimplification is STILL a brilliant stroke for Broadway, if not necessarily for elementary school students.
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 13, 2010 12:23am
I use free musicianship materials by Kentaro Sato, and I also adapted the solfege syllable ideas by him for my classes.

You can find the information here by the way.

http://www.wisemanproject.com/education-e-top.html

Anyway, one of reasons why I adopted his system is that to avoid using diphthong..

Doe - diphthong closed Oh + closed Oo

Ray - diphthong closed Eh + closed Ee

Saw - diphthong closed Oh + closed Oo

His system is based on widely used traditional US chromatic solfege, but easier to sing than the traditional one.

There is a free "warm-up song" at his site (musicianship page), and it uses solfege syllables as text. I use it at the beginning of every class, and at the end of semester all students, no matter how old they are, will learn chromatic solfege with no problem.

on March 13, 2010 11:52am
If you are teaching solfege to a group of singers that will be singing much music in Latin, the traditional solfege syllables are a great way to work on pure vowels (minus diphthongs) along with learning the syllables. Hammerstein's mnemonics do just the opposite. And John, Hammerstein was very practice, the line is "La, a note to follow Sol (sew)".
 
Charles Q. Sullivan
cqsmusic(a)hotmail.com
on March 13, 2010 10:40am
I finally did remember that line, Charles.  (They say that long-term memory is the second thing to go!!!)
 
But just to continue being picky, "La" only follows "Sol" in the scale, and only in the rising scale at that, but not necessarily in solmizing any particular melody.  Again, brilliant and clever for Broadway, to compress months of teaching into a 3-minute song, but for real teaching I'll take Kodaly!
 
John
 
 
on March 13, 2010 11:18am
The Sound of Music approach seems to have worked for Jessica, so perhaps it should considerered as an alternatve.

We use all kinds of tricks to memorize dates, lists of composers, and, of course, lines and spaces.  Did you know that using the word FACE to memorize the lines of the treble clef in elementary school does not work in every language?

Using homophones to memorize does have some educational precedent.  Learning through song lyrics also has a precedent.  The ABC song comes to mind for those that need an example.  Sally Yarrow has a nice piece called "The Time Signature of Love" on sibeliusmusic that uses the British terms for the note types.  It is still a good teaching tool.    One of my former choir members is now a school librarian. She teaches the children songs about how to use the library....
 
Perhaps, if the pronunicaition of Oscar Hammerstien's lyrics are not conducive to good vowel formations, a creative director could write their own teaching song.
on March 14, 2010 12:37pm
Claire,
I've been teaching elementary music for, well, more years than I now admit. We start singing solfege as soon as the children start school, and we use handsigns. Definitely take a Kodaly class. Reading a book will give you a sequence, but it won't give you the essence.
 
As for Doe, a Deer.... besides the dipthong problem - which is huge in itself - the song doesn't teach solfege intervals. It's rather like a pre-schooler reciting the alphabet by rote, but having no clue how to put the sounds together to make words. We don't kid ourselves into believing that a child who can say the alphabet can read. In the same way, we can't say that a child who can sing a scale using solfege syllables knows solfege. The point of solfege is understanding intervalic relations between the degrees of the scale.
 
If you use the Kodaly sequence, the intervals are presented in the order that students learn most accurately. Use that sequence, because it's good stuff.  When I've dabbled in teaching the order differently, my students have not been as successful. Now I stick with the tried and true. My 5th grade students sight-read better than many of my college classmates (music majors) who were in sight-singing class.
 
Susan
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