Gardner 'Dancing Day' percussion problemDate: October 31, 2009
My choir in Tokyo is rehearsing John Gardner's "Tomorrow
shall be my dancing day" and I have been assigned to do percussion.
(I know the piece very well and I am also an experienced novelty
percussionist; these are not problems.)
The upper percussion line is marked 'tambourine' and the lower, 'side drum'. I am doing both; the upper line with a heavy double open tambourine that fits the key, held in my left hand and struck against my leg just below the knee; the lower line with a very small tambourine with a bright high pitch, struck against the right knee. Musically, the first rehearsal went very well; the only problem is that the big tambourine created a very large bruised areabelow the knee that, two weeks later, is still not entirely clear. So, can anyone give me practical suggestions about how to protect the outside of the upper calf from this tambourine onslaught? I have tried checking out cyclist's knee pads, but our local bike shop only has chains, spare tires and pumps, so I don't know what's out there. Appearance will not be a problem as my concert attire is a flared full-length black skirt which will hide just about anything. TIA, Doreen Simmons, Tokyo Replies (8): Threaded | Chronological
Marjorie Drysdale on October 31, 2009 7:26am
You might try going to a skateboard shop.
on October 31, 2009 10:07am
Try also a baseball or basketball team if there is one around.
Mike Wade
on October 31, 2009 11:07am
Hi, Doreen.
What I wonder is why you're hitting BELOW the knee? Obviously you're hitting your calf with the wooden frame. Try hitting your knee instead, but with the tambourine head, not the frame. I would think that any sort of padding would tend to dampen the sound, so the knee would actually be better for your purpose.
BUT, for a less quick-&-dirty suggestion, you say you're an "experienced novelty percussionist," which suggest that you aren't actually a trained percusionist, and playing percussion instruments is every bit as technical as playing any other instrument. So you might want to consult a trained percussionist or percussion teacher if you know someone appropriate.
John
on November 1, 2009 2:11am
John, the practical problem is that I am a very small person
(and getting smaller by the month, it seems....). I am also younger
than Elizabeth Taylor, but only just; 1932 was a very good year; it
included Miriam Makeba, Nacy Kassebaum Baker, Sydney Harbour
Bridge, Greater Tokyo, and Goofy (and, I belive, Johnny Cash, but
maybe he was in the same year but not the calendar year).
I believe I am using a rather special tambourine that is made of plastic, and the only way I can use it is to stand with it in my left hand at full arm extension and hit wherever it happens to land (this being just below my knee). While I admit to being an amateur, it is hard to find a professional who can help me. Two or three years ago when the BEC of Tokyo put on a world-first stage performance of Howard Goodall's "We are the Burning Fire", I went mad with Japanese wind chimes, Tibetan bells, Latin-American rattles, referees' whistles and what-have-you; the only genuine percussion pro was an African Griot drummer in dreadlocks, who, when informed that our performance was free and collecting for charity, proudly announced that he would dedicate his God-given talent for charity. By now wildly off-topic, but I can assure you that the music scene in Tokyo (especially when it embraces folk in any form and of any century) is something you have to be here to experience. While I am still searching, thanks to the other practical suggestions. Surfers' shops in central Tokyo may be hard to find, but I know the only place this will happen and will try it later this week; in sports, my main acquaintances are sumo wrestlers, and just last Sunday I believe I appeared in a brief segment in the Charles Osgood CBS show. Doree still looking for an Okinawan who can _really_ demonstrate the exact finger configuration of the sanba)
on November 1, 2009 5:08am
Doreen,
Trained percussionist here (2 years in music school major before switching to voice/choral).
Stop the leg banging now - a player never, ever moves the tambourine to create a rhythm. One strikes the instrument with the fingertips or flat hand, depending on the sound desired.
RE Dancing Day: you don't have to play both instruments, and for heaven's sake, don't tune the tambourine. It's sposed to be noise, not tone. Also, the part is conceived for two players, or one trained percussionist.
I take it you don't play, or have access to a snare (side) drum, or player? If not, do the following.
1. Get a music stand and a thick towel. Fold it and put it on the stand turned parallel to grand, to make a table.
2. Determine your or the conductor's favored tambourine sound. One with a head is always preferable.
3. Place that tambourine on the stand, and tap the edge of the head, or frame if no head, with your fingers, first knuckle area.
4. Or, place both instruments on the stand, and play the two of them.
5. Or, if you can manage it, and don't want to use the stand, hold the tamb. in weak hand, and strike head near frame with strong hand.
Alternately, replace one tambourine stand with a snare drum, very lightly, but only if you feel comfortable and competent. Tambourine is sufficient. I've done it completely without - the piano itself is a whale of a percussion instrument, and the perc. part adds nothing substantial.
best, Paul. E.mail me if you want more info.
on November 2, 2009 5:02pm
Thank you, Paul. I have printed this out for future
reference. But there are some practical problems: one is we've
already rehearsed the piece, and the Choir Director has expressed
satisfaction with the percussion effects; the only problem is that
I got bruised. Another is that our large choir (we do a lot of
double choir music) occupies all the stage in most venues and any
extra effects sometimes have to be squeezed into some tight places.
More important: you seem to be looking at this from the point of view of an orchestral percussionist. Hitting the tambourine against the leg as I did is, in fact, a perfectly acceptable technique in 'ethnic' circles. What you are describing is an adaptation to orchestral use of an instrument from another genre. A similar instance is the orchestral 'castanet' consisting of a spoonlike handle with half a castanet attached; this is very different from the real Spanish castanet which is played with the fingers and consists of two equal clappers linked by a circular cord doubled over the thumb (and of course these are always used in pairs so an extra effect can be achieved by clashing both castanets together). To return to my own problem; the children at the nearby kindergarten are nearly all ferrried in by their mothers on bikes; I'll ask the mothers where they get the protective gear. Thanks to all who replied. Doreen Simmons
on November 3, 2009 3:01pm
Doreen,
I clicked on this thread because I am an experienced percussionist (50 years) and your title caught my attention. Forgive me, but you've received some honest-hearted advice from experienced percussionists. I don't believe they're confused about the genre - you asked for help and they're trying to provide it. You'll either adapt their advice or you won't.
Since you're not performing with the New York Philharmonic performance technique may not be your highest concern. If you (and your conductor) are happy with the aural results of the racket you're producing by thrashing about with incorrect instruments - just go with it. Surely, for a trooper such as yourself a little maiming is not too high a price.
Cheers
on November 6, 2009 5:56am
Chuck,
I've been doing percussion of one kind or another for over 60 years, though it's only in the last 15 or so that people, especially those running bars that feature Celtic bands or sessions, have been paying me -- or at least, discounting the beer. :-) Technique is my second concern; my first is, getting the beat right and fitting in with the people playing the music (and, from time to time, raising the ante by challenging them). My main instrument has been, for some 17 years, the bodhran. Do you play it with an upward or downward beat? My teacher (a professional) said either way was fine - and at the time the accepted wisdom was that it didn't matter which way you did it so long as you got the sound right. Lately I've seen a lot of videos and all the young men playing were using the upward technique. But this is not 'right' that makes anything else 'wrong'; it's just a new wave. When I visited Seville, many years ago, I attended flamenco lessons to get proper instruction on the use (and the 'feel') of castanets. I can't manage the techniques now, because of loss of mobility in the metacarpals, but this does not impair my knowledge of how to use castanets -- and when. Likewise I had a private little session with a belly dancer in Tangier and she taught me the use of the finger cymbals, plus an unusual way of getting a beat from snapping the index finger of one hand against the joints of the other. (Though the finger cymbals I use today were bought much more recently in Istanbul after a refresher course.) It's not how long you've been learning, either; I had djembe lessons off and on for three or four years, whenever the Griot sensei was free to teach (in the Drum Museum at Asakusa, Tokyo); but I would not consider myself as anything but a humble back-up djembe player. On the other hand, I don't recall anybody teaching me to play the spoons -- but I have never had the slightest difficulty in turning in what my fellow players (many of them professionals in Irish or other music) clearly regard as not only acceptable but desirable. They invite me to play with them. Maybe I'm spoilt; the Celtic and general folk scene in Tokyo is wide open; many professional musicians (some of them also university lecturers) turn up to regular pub evenings just to let their hair down and play for the sheer pleasure of it. And if you don't fit in, the Japanese enthusiasts soon find ways to exclude you (for example, they don't tell you where or when the next session will be held). Doreen, one of life's free spirits
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