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Help for a new choir director with no vocal training!

I am a K-12 music teacher at a rural school with limited choir experience.  I sang in choir when I was in college, but never took vocal lessons. I am primarily an instrumentalist, so learning to teach choir and elementary music this year has been difficult, and a lot of trial and error.
 
I recently accepted a job at another small school where I will again teach K-12 music: elementary music, band, and choir. I need a LOT of help learning to be a better choir director, and have a lot of questions. I'll start with a few for right now.
 
1)How do I teach students to sing music OTHER than unison music? All that was done in the past was unison singing and so they have no concept of singing harmony parts.  How do I teach them to harmonize? I hope my question makes sense. They just don't get it.
 
2)How do I get students who are self-conscious about their singing to open up and sing? I only have about two kids that are comfortable singing at the correct volume, and the rest just kind of mumble. How do I fix that? How do I teach them to sing with a supported voice?
 
3)What kind of music is best for beginning singers? The school I'm going to has grades 9-12 in choir. None of them will have any experience with singing. Can you recommend specific pieces that are accessible to beginning singers? Any styles or genres you would recommend? And, if I have a smaller choir, is it better to use two-part or SAB arrangements rather than SATB?
 
4)For those of you who have experience with elementary music. How do you teach singing concepts to children, and at what grade level? For instance, how would I get kindergarden started on singing, and how would I continue to teach them about concepts of pitch, etc as they grow older? Any specific methods, books, resources, etc?
 
Please be patient with  me--I want to teach choir as well as I teach band. I know I have a lot of questions, and I appreciate all of you willing to help me. I really love choir, but because I am untrained, sometimes it's hard to know how to teach it.
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on February 27, 2010 3:16pm

1) How do I teach students to sing music OTHER than unison music?

One of the good ways to introduce the harmony/polyphony is to use canon.

2a) How do I get students who are self-conscious about their singing to open up and sing?

Step back from "singing," and just start from comfortably and beautifully making sound. Yawning, then yawning-singing, and simple and fun vocalization would work well. And you don't have to encourage them to open their mouths, but insist that they have their throats opened and keep them opened.

2b) How do I teach them to sing with a supported voice?

Teach them correct and relaxed breathing while they learn open throat feeling, while you learn the tendency of the voice, passagios, and vowel modification.

You should find some recordings of choirs which demonstrate the ideal supported voices. Younger singers don't have ideal sounds in their minds yet. So, give them examples.

3b) What kind of music is best for beginning singers? Any styles or genres you would recommend?

It is always nice to give them various pieces from different eras, and also give them chances to choose repertoires. The best songs to practice are often the songs they like.

3b) if I have a smaller choir, is it better to use two-part or SAB arrangements rather than SATB?

If there is piano accompaniment part, it often happens that harmony is fulfilled well by the piano. So, you can still use SATB song, but ask singers to sing as if it is two-part or SAB song in some parts. You should be very flexible. Consider what's on the paper is just a general guide.

4)How do you teach singing concepts to children,

If the singer is really young, imitation and telling images works best.

Of course, it would be nice to remember how YOU learned the must. ;)

on February 27, 2010 7:16pm
It is interesting that some teachers who were college voice majors have similar questions when they begin ttheir careers.  I would suggest that you use your college choir director and some of your fellow college choir members who now teach as a resource.   They are as close as your phone or your computer and they would probably be happy that you care about the experience your students have with vocal music.
on February 28, 2010 6:10am
 1. It honestly would help if you explain to the students that there are two different voice parts to the song and explain which students will sing Part one, and which students will sing Part two. If they can have a chance to sing both parts, that will prove that they are capable of singing either or, then it is just a matter of reminding them to make sure that they sing THEIR part when you perform.
 
2. I have students generally talk loud or even shout to prove that their voice can be loud, then I tell them to sing at that volume. This is only good for students 13 years old or older. Another thing that may help is encouragement. I try to live by the rule of "Risk. Fail. Risk Again." Perhaps having a poster with positive thoughts like that around the room. Also, let the students know that you WANT to hear mistakes. You can't fix a mistake if you can't hear it, and if you don't fix mistakes, the choir will never reach its full potential to be amazing.
on February 28, 2010 7:44am
Kentaro--very helpful information.  Let me ask a few questions for you. How do I teach them to sing with an open throat? Do I have them practicing yawning to see how it feels? What do you mean by "yawning-singing"? How do I teach this?
 
 
on February 28, 2010 9:08am
While I believe the above answers are good I have a couple of additional suggestions that I think you should consider.  If you can you should find a "voice" teacher and take as many lessons as you are able.  If you are going to teach singing you must demonstrate correctly. The voice is an instrument and should be treated as such.  Also I have a little concern as to having them sing "music they like".  Most kids listen to music that, in my opinion, is not age appropriate - text as well as vocal production.  I would find a series of American or other Folk Songs.  Folk Songs usually have a limited range which is helpful to the young singer. It is rather embarrassing, but most Americans kids have little knowledge of American Folk Songs. Most importantly make sure you are having fun and love the kids and the songs you are teaching.  In closing the Clovis and Fresno Schools in California have exemplary elementary choirs, if you can you should contact the coordinator of music in those school districts and get in touch with some of the more experienced teachers, who would be able to share important insights and resources.  Good luck.  Dan Earl

on February 28, 2010 11:08am
Allie,
 
There is a great resource book as well by Russell Robinson called "I Know Sousa, Not Sopranos." He began as a band person and is now one of the most prolific educational choral arrangers out there.
 
CJ
 
on February 28, 2010 11:47am
 My "lifeline" books for young voices and children's choirs:  Innocent Sounds:  Building Choral Tone and Artistry in Your Children's Choir, Marie Stultz, Book 1 and 2,
and Lifeline for Children's Choir Directors, Jean Ashworth Bartle--- these books got me through my first year and I still use them regularly...
 
Janine
on February 28, 2010 1:19pm
Allie:
 
Canons work well to teach independent singing because everyone is learning the same music, then just learning to sing it at different times.  With canons you can group your singers by strength rather than section (in mixed groups or divided by female/male singers) and balance your groups in terms of ability/confidence.  Have the groups sit/stand in circles so they can hear and see when their part starts.  Even in a concert performance, it works well to have the groups separated by space so they can hear their part.
 
For your high school students, I would look for 2-part mixed repertoire and SAB repertoire next, just to establish the concept of singing independent lines.  Teach all of your girls the alto part until they are secure, then teach them all the soprano part.  Once you do that, balance your section with strong/weaker voices.  At this stage don't lock the girls into soprano/alto, have them sing both regularly.
 
Support and tone are constant issues.  Deal with it daily.  If you know they are capable of singing with "x" tone, don't accept less, even in the reading stages.  I call it "the bar" in my choir.  We always want to sing "at the bar" or above, never below.  And we raise the bar daily.  Why practice bad tone?  These are going to be small steps, but your encouragement and approval will make it possible.
 
Three suggestions for success:
I think one of the most important things for your choir is for them to hear other choirs.  Invite a college or other high school choir to stop at your school, or take a field trip to a school and listen to other choirs and have the director work with your choir.  Often the guest conductor says exactly what you say every day, but the students respond because it is someone other than their teacher.  And listen in the classroom.  Find recordings of the pieces you are performing (or pieces you hope to perform) sung by good high school choirs, and have the music playing every day when the students enter the classroom.  Talk about it.  Write reviews.  Ask them what they hear that is the same as/different from their choir. Give them "points" for downloading choral music (legally, of course) or writing reviews of high school choirs they find on You Tube.  They sound the way they do because that is what they think they are supposed to sound like.  Change the mental image, and you will hear change in your choir.
 
Read every day.  There are many useful sightreading programs, pick one.  Choir students sing with more confidence as they improve their reading skills.
 
Find quality music/arrangements that are fun, appealling to the students, and in a variety of genres from classical to popular to jazz to world music.  Be excited about the repertoire, and let them know why, out of a billion pieces of available music, you picked this piece for them to sing.  One foreign language piece at most per concert as they get used to that concept.
 
Good luck.  Keep asking questions.  Get involved with your state and regional ACDA chapter.  And enjoy the journey.
 
Tom Porter
University of Mary
Bismarck, North Dakota
on February 28, 2010 1:54pm
Allie,
 
A couple things for you to consider:
 
1) There are many different notions of vocal pedagogy. Some folks believe that you should teach kids to yawn-sing (feeling the elevated position of the soft palette while yawning, then keeping it there while singing). Other teachers find that this can produce an unnatural tone (especially with the changed male voice), and is actually unnecessary. They propose that singers think of -- and sing -- a pure vowel at all times ... and then the entire vocal mechanism will do what it needs to do (including the soft palette, the mouth opening, the tongue, the larynx...). Some teachers suggest that singers open the mouth wider as the pitch rises, while others suggest this only for women (or unchanged male voices). Some teachers tell singers not to smile, thinking that smiling will negatively affect tone and production. Other teachers encourage natural facial expressions combined with pure vowels and a relaxed, "unhinged" jaw.
 
RE breathing, opinions are almost as disparate. Some propose belly or tummy breathing, and others suggest that singers focus more on a relaxed breath that fills both lower and upper ribs -- with noticeable rib expansion, but without the chest heaving up (this "clavicular breathing" being ineffective). And still others tell singers to "hold the ribs open" while exhaling.
 
Personally, I've studied with eight different teachers (more if you include the choral directors I've worked with), and I've been taught all of the above. What works best for me when I sing and when I teach is the "pure vowel combined with relaxation" vocal pedagogy, natural facial expressions, and a relaxed rib expansion.  But who knows, maybe if I worked with another teacher, I'd discover something entirely different.
 
So, I guess what I'm saying is caveat emptor ... and recommend that you take lessons from several people, explore the different ideas yourself, watch videos, and do as much reading on the subject as you can. Along with visiting some other choirs' rehearsals if at all possible.
 
2) RE getting singers to sing out with confidence, I would suggest you create a safe and supportive environment from day one, give the singers a story and text-based purpose for singing, AND have the singers move while singing. I'm not talking choralography, necessarily, but am talking about releasing singers from stiffness or stillness while singing. Check my website for much more on these subjects, and consider investigating my book, Tim Caldwell's Singing with Expression: Dalcroze Eurythmics & Voice, and Leslie Guelker-Cone's upcoming video on physicalizing the music (to be offered at www.sbmp.com).
 
All my best,
 
Tom
on February 28, 2010 2:37pm
Wow, thanks everyone for the great replies so far. Keep them coming. I would love to be able to have a successful choir and these tips are helping. I have a few more questions.
 
1)I hope this isn't silly. But if you have guys in your choir, and you are singing two-part arrangements, would you have the guys sing one of the parts an octave below to fit his range? Because most of the two-part things I've looked at so far look like they'd be too high for men to sing.
 
2)As far as using canons to introduce harmony; is there a collection of these that anyone here would recommend? Or several? 
 
3)my choir will also include some from 7th or 8th grade; what do I do with boys with unchanged voices? Which voice part should they sing? 
 
4)I've heard some people describe that some methods would work for the female voice but not the male voice, and visa versa. Why is that? What is different about the male and female voices? 
 
5)I am planning to try and take vocal lessons if I am able to afford them, or at the very least get together with choir teacher friends to get help with my own voice. I will not have time to do this until summer. In the meantime, what can I do to begin developing my own voice? I don't feel that breath support is an issue for me, since I am a saxophonist. My main concerns are the quality of my voice; I have only a little vibrato in my voice, and it sounds "thin" and unfocused. How can I develop better vibrato? 
 
6)One last question (thank y'all for being so patient). What are "pure vowels"? What does that mean? 
 
Once again, THANK YOU for the help and for the patience.
on February 28, 2010 7:12pm
Allie:  Don't appologize for your questions!  It's good for us all to be reminded that things we may take for granted are all things that WE had to learn!
 
3.  What to do with unchanged boys' voices?  Place them as sopranos or altos based on their own individual voices.  Don't you DARE put them all on alto just because they're boys and boys sing low!!!  The boy soprano voice is a beautiful sound.  But you might think about calling them "trebles" rather than "sopranos" or "altos," as a sociological thing. 
 
4.  The female and male voices.  What you need tø understand is that both boys and girls go through adolecsent voice changes, but they are very different.  Boys' voices slide down graduatlly, drop suddenly, or in a few cases crash and burn.  You have to deal with them individually.  Girls' voices tend to fuzz out for a while during puberty, and should not be pushed beyond their present capabilities in order to avoid damage.  Some of them could probably vocalize past the top of the piano as 9-year-olds, but they're going to lose some of that top as their voices mature and settle down.
 
6.  Being a sax player.  I'm guessing that you have learned, without even thinking about it, to raise your tongue as you get higher in your range.  Clarinet and oboe players do this, so I can't see why sax players wouldn't.  But your singing voice needs for the tongue to stay low so as not to block your throat, and one way to consciously do this (since it is usually done unconsciously), is to use the yawning trick.  Actually the feeling just BEFORE you yawn is what you're looking for.  The trick is to keep throat, tongue, and everything else as completely relaxed as possible rather than tightening things up to give you back pressure to sing against, as the reed on your sax gives you.  It'll feel like you're losing control, but that's the feeling you actually want.
 
(And I'm sure the actual voice teachers on the List will chime in if they think this is bad advice!)
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 1, 2010 9:44pm
Re John's comment:
 
4.  [ snip] Girls' voices tend to fuzz out for a while during puberty, and should not be pushed beyond their present capabilities in order to avoid damage.  Some of them could probably vocalize past the top of the piano as 9-year-olds, but they're going to lose some of that top as their voices mature and settle down.
 
This is in no way to deny the fact and features of the voice change for girls and the need for care (and (some girls have signficant difficulty with their voice change), but please don't assume that girls in their low teens _can't_ vocalise above the stave.   Much of my voice teaching is done with girls this age, and while I don't ask them to sing music which sits at the top of the stave and higher, nearly all of them can vocalise easily up to a Bflat above the stave, and when they are on a roll even higher -- _lightly_and "just for fun".   And they _do_ enjoy it, once they discover how. ( I make very clear from the start that I have no intention of ignoring their contemporary commercial musical preferences.) 
 
We also, just for fun, do "how low can you go?" in an unpushed way.  The result is that most of my adolescent females can vocalise with ease over close to two and a half octaves.  The range they use is rather narrower of course!  Most of their singing is done in the middle  of their range with occasional ventures a bit higher and lower
 
All of this is after warming up/getting going in the middle of the voice, of course.  I am not suggesting you must venture here, particularly if you are not confident of your own ability to demonstrate what you are asking for, but I do think it is unnecessary, more broadly speaking, to deny teenage girls the opportunity to enjoy an awareness of the whole of their voices and to retain their capacity to achieve a lighter registration.
 
Helen Duggan
(now climbing down off my soap box)
 
on March 1, 2010 4:40pm
Hi, Helen, and be assured that I don't disagree with you at all.
 
But we're talking about two very different things.  You're talking about notes above the upper passaggio, say up to a "high C" (c''' or C6).  (Or exceptionally up to the Queen's high F above that.  Mariah Carey has sung a full octave above that, IN PUBLIC!)
 
I was talking about vocalizing above the top of the PIANO, not the top of the treble staff--that is up to c''''' or C8, fundamental frequency around 5 khz.  And the summer we did "Annie," a couple of my 9-year-olds could do exactly that on siren calls (as could my late wife when she was young).  That's clearly a function of small vocal folds along with fundamentally healthy vocal production.
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 2, 2010 2:34am
I aologise,  John.  I clearly read too fast.
 
I am very impressed by the siren range you mention.  I find it quite a challenge to get the girls (from 12 up)  to siren at all, and if they do they  tend not to go beyond about D5.  It seems to be too "embarrassing" , despite my strict policy of never asking students to have a go at something I am not prepared to do myself  :-)    Major arpeggios are generally acceptable to them, so that's what we do. 
 
BTW, we never try hard, rather we always "have a go" , an approach I learned from a speech pathologist years ago, which I find very helpful both with my singing students and when working with secondary school and adult community choirs.  People discover that they can do all sorts of things technically they were sure they couldn't . . .
 
Regards
 
Helen Duggan
on March 2, 2010 4:04pm
Hellen:  I know exactly what you mean.  I've actually had students who could sing in a wider range than they could vocalize, because when the song required it, they figured out how to do it!
 
And I had one soprano who had no idea that she could hit those altissimo Mariah Carey notes until one day, in sound check, when she threw in some of them just for the heck of it!  And boy, you should have seen my audio techs leap for the board to slam down the faders before she blew out the speakers!!!  It wasn't long until she was doing one of those songs as a solo in the show.
 
And I certainly appreciate your low-key approach.  For the same reason I don't give "Exams" in my Survey of Music course, I give "Quizzes."  Anything we can do to cut down on anxiety is all to the good.
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 1, 2010 9:04pm
Allie,
 
To your #5 and #6, I would say...
 
5. While I've also heard contradictory and contrasting explanations of vibrato(!), the informal one that works for me is the following: Vibrato is what happens when a steady airflow meets a relaxed and efficient vocal mechanism. So, if you've already got a steady flow going, you're probably going to be best-served by focusing on your vocal mechanism. I would suggest doing a couple of things for starters.
 
First, allow your tongue to relax, and feel the tip of the tongue against the back of your bottom teeth. If your tongue spends most of its time in this relative position as you sing, it's likely to remain relaxed. And since it's a big muscle -- extending down your throat -- if it's NOT relaxed (pulled back, pushed down, pulled up...), it can actually physiologically affect your vocal mechanism -- including the vocal cords themselves through tension created in related/associated musculature. (Caveat: There are pedagogies out there that have singers doing some very interesting things with their tongues -- but for them to be healthy and effective, they take a lot of very careful and specific training.)
 
So, tongue relaxed. 
 
Now, place your knuckles against your cheekbones (fingers pointing down) and gently let your mouth hang open WHILE the tongue remains in that relaxed position. Don't force the mouth to open wider than gravity and relaxation encourage. You're now in a somewhat ideal position -- both your jaw and tongue are relaxed. 
 
From here, slowly lower your hands, then allow your head to GENTLY roll around. Check for shoulder, neck, throat, and back tension. You can also hang down in Raggedy Ann position and slowly 'roll' up, thus facilitating a general relaxation ... and becoming aware of anywhere you might be carrying tension. 
 
Even if you do all of the above, however, you can be sabotaged by impure vowels.
 
6. Pure vowels are (arguably again!) AH, A (as in "cat"), EH, EE, OH, OOO, UH, and IH. However, other vowel sounds may be "pure" as well, since it's not really the actual vowel you're singing that defines "pure vowel," it's the fact that you're only singing ONE relaxed vowel at a time. Here's a related Wikipedia blurb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monophthong
 
For example, the word "sky" has one vowel but two vowel sounds -- AH and EE (or IH). If a singer is singing pure vowels, they're going to be singing that relaxed "AH" for most of the value of the note, vocalizing the "EE" or "IH" part of the word at the very last moment ... and only for a moment. If they try to sing both sounds at once, they're going to incur throat/vocal mechanism tension with that attempt to unify the diphthong, and it's not going to be a pure vowel. It might sound closer to AH or closer to EE, but it will have tension and it will likely impact vibrato. Country singers often sing with this blended diphthong -- and their voices are generally not as relaxed and free as those of singers who are singing pure vowels. For most choral singing, the first half of the diphthong is going to be the pure vowel that the singer spends most of their time on.
 
If you want to explore this effect, sing the national anthem as a stereotypical country bumpkin from somewhere in the backwoods of America's Southern states. When you do this, you will likely feel lots of throat and back-of-tongue tension. Now, sing the national anthem with that relaxed tongue and jaw, thinking of pure vowels. Lots of things might be impacted, including fullness and 'warmth' of tone ... and vibrato.
 
And them are my two cents on these here issues.
 
All my best,
 
Tom
 
 
on February 28, 2010 6:37pm
Allie,
 
In response to your last post  question #2- a good book of easy canons is Rounds for Everyone from Everywhere by Terri. Start with the ones on the front of the book - they are the easiest. Some other rounds off the top of my haed are Tallis' Canon, Zum Gali Gali, O Music (Lowell Mason), Jubilate Deo (Praetorius)  and The Cuckoo. All should be asy to find with a Google search if you didn't learn them in elementary school or in an elementary music education class. Partner songs (two separate melodies that sound good when sung togeher) are the next logical step after the kids can sing canons. Many books exist of these types of songs - search "partner songs" in the jwpepper.com website for ideas. Brilee Music (brileemusic.com) also is full of great middle school/junior high choral music choices.  Good luck!
 
Mary Jane Phillips
on March 2, 2010 1:36pm
When teaching rounds and canons, make sure that after you teach the song in unison, have them sing the song and you come in.  You should be one group against them.  Do not split them into 2 groups to sing a round or canon until they have sung it against you.  Then you start and they come in.  Only after they have done both of these steps should you break them into two groups.
Have each group take a turn starting the song and coming in.
 
You can also create or do ostinatos for songs - repeating patterns that can be sung while another group sings the main song.
 
Another great way to teach parts is partner songs.
 
When trying to get kids to sing confidently, play singing games that make them sing answers.  They will love the games so much that they will forget that they are singing the answers.  Usually these games require the students to sing alone so you can evaluate and help their singing happen..
 
As for question number 4, I highly recommend that you take a Kodaly course.  Let me know where you are and I can tell you where the nearest Kodaly courses are.  In the meantime, read up on as much Kodaly as possible - The Kodaly Concept by Lois Choksy, and any materials by these teachers:  John Feierabend, Jean Sinor, Lamar Robertson (has great worksheets too), Ann Eisen.
 
For Kindergarten you really need to get them to understand the difference between singing and speaking.  Lillie Feierabend (John's wife) does a lot of work with beginning singers.  Have them make a lot of high sounds by making siren sounds, animal sounds, wooooo sounds as they follow your hand up and down, etc.
 
I hope this helps.
 
on March 2, 2010 1:54pm
My wife always does roll call by singing their names, which the student named has to echo back. This creates a routine in which every student must sing something every day. She starts with just falling thirds (at various pitch levels) and gradually makes the tune to echo more difficult over the course of the year.
on March 2, 2010 6:44pm
Allen:  My wife did something similar with the younger kids at the Montessori school she taught at, but with a twist.
 
She had them answer her using sol-mi, which they got right off.  Until she got to our younger son, whose name is Rémi, so she had to change the pattern for him from sol, mi, mi, sol, mi, to  sol,  mi, mi, re, mi!!!
 
The kids definitely got the idea, and it tickled them, too, always a good thing!
 
John
on July 23, 2010 8:41pm
I had grades 6-8, then 9-12. At the beginning of the year, we would start with two part harmony using a few Canons. After that, we 'graduated' to 3 part, then 4 part. Having them tell me what type of music excites them helped. I selected a few songs that they would listen to on the radio... provided the theme and language was appropriate, and also mixed in a few that would challenge them from different era's. When I decided to leave, my 8th graders were singing the Bach Magnificat. The parents were informed and invloved, and what really helped is recording. For each piece, I would play each individual part, then all 4 parts, lasty the acc. and put it onto a cd for the students to take home and practice with. Now, that helped a great deal, but I understand that not every middle school has recording equipment, nor the funds to make a cd for each child! And to answer anyone's question... this was a public school, not a school of the arts.
on July 31, 2010 10:04am
Amazing to know that some seek to improve their marksmanship by moving the target.
Tough to find a cause by manipulating effects. Phonation - sine qua non!
 
Happy Hunting,
 
C. Edward Palmer
on December 28, 2010 1:13am
All great advice. 
 
I would just add,
(I'm the director of vocal development for a symphony music education program in my area  and work with 4-8th grade vocal students),
 
to get them to sing out and reduce fear of doing so, get them moving.I've been known to march my kids around as they sing.  It's amazing how suddenly they are less timid.  I also plan fun games that get them singing without thinking about it. 
 
One game that I do in the beginning of the year is to have them write the words to a song they know about why they want to be in this ensemble, then perform it for each other.  (In groups of 3).  This is a great ice breaker that seems to get them to let loose a little.
 
Jan
 
on December 29, 2010 3:54am
A big don't for me is to allow children from kindergarten up to sing (or shout really in some cases) in chest voice. This is a very difficult concept to get across to general ed teachers (which I was) when they are preparing for programs. Louder is not better. If children learn to sing in a nice head tone the sound will increase as they get used to it. Yawn sighs and sirens become fun and allow children to find that upper register. I sometimes would demonstrate and then have them copy me, pointing out that they were able to go higher than I could. They enjoyed feeling like they could do something better than the teacher. The old you hoo call is another good way to get into head tone, starting on various pitches, not in a set pattern. Sirens or talking like a little hamster helped those who weren't matching pitch to find their head tone. You can then sing a pitch, have them try to match it, slide down to where they are and have them slide the pitch back up to the one you started with.
 
Don't have the boys with changed voices sing in an unnatural register. A good unison with good diction and those pure vowels (and everyone in the choir singing the same vowel, especially on sustained notes) with everyone singing in a comfortable octave is more important. For those poor boys going through the terrors of an unpredictable voice as their voice changes, tell them to sing lightly with more breath. I always explain to everyone what happens to the vocal cords as they get older and why voices are unpredictable for a while with the boys, but not much of a problem for the girls and make it very clear that this is not something to tease anyone about. They know I'm very serious about this one and that someone will surely tell on them. That would mean having to explain to me why they did it - I'm 6'2" + with heels - still a little intimidating when I need to be.
 
I used to tell my choirs that their grandmother was in the back row and a little hard of hearing so they needed to sing so she could hear them, but not until they were ready to increase their volume. I told more than one principal who wanted things louder to get a mike.
 
One hard and fast rule was that they did not have to like every piece that we did, but they couldn't complain until they knew the song well enough to perform it and then they had to tell me what it was about the song that they didn't like. I didn't get too many complaints.
 
I don't know where you are. Are there any good children's church choirs near enough that you could observe rehearsals? Same with adult choirs? You can learn a lot about what works (and what doesn't) watching other people.
 
Some of the English boy choirs - Kings College Choir for example - will give them a wonderful model of singing in head tone and show the boys that boys do sing and very well. I don't know if the Los Angeles Children's Choir is on youtube. They would also be a good model. There are so many good choirs of all ages on youtube that we could all list all night and not even come close to beginning the list. 
You will learn a lot by trial and error as you find your personal style. What works for one person can be a disaster for the next.
 
Keep us posted and keep asking questions. The only dumb question is the one you were afraid to ask!
Pat 
on January 1, 2010 9:04am
Some great answers here!
 
Re singing harmony? When I was very young (around  5, I think), my sister (10 years older) came home from boarding school and said, let me teach you this song. (I had always loved to sing; my mother sung me to sleep at night). She said you sing this part (the melody), and I'll sing something different. We did and I will say, even to this day 50 years later, it was an epiphanic moment. When we were done, she said, "that's called HARMONY".
 
Perhaps you could do this with your young kids? Have them sing the melody on something simple, and you sing the harmony.
 
Also, play for them as much harmony as you can - both on records and at the keyboard.
 
Good luck - it sounds like a wonderful, if not challenging, job!
on January 1, 2010 8:24pm
Allie, one concept that, I believe, has resulted in several voice problems among us human beings is the idea that we have a singing voice and a speaking voice.  Those two 'things' don't exist and never have, just like we don't have running legs and walking legs or grasping hands and pushing hands. 
 
We human beings have parts of ourselves that we coordinate together to produce the sound phenomenon we call voice. The only essential difference between speaking and singing is that in speech we slide our vocal pitches around (vibrational frequencies), and in singing we sustain our pitches for a time before we go to other sustained pitches.  In both speaking and singing we change our vocal volumes, our voice qualities, and the durations of the sounds we make. 
 
Specifically, in both singing and speaking:
1. we inhale air into our lungs,
2. we close our vocal folds over that lung-air,
3. we then 'squeeze' on our lungs to pressurize that air, and
4. when the closure intensity of the vocal folds and the pressure of the air underneath reach a critical relationship, the air begins to flow between the two vocal
    folds and sets them into complex vibrations that create complex shock waves in the air above the vocal folds (referred to as sound pressure waves, sound
    waves for short), thus creating the first contribution to our vocal pitches, volumes, and timings, and to our voice qualities or vocal timbres (what we 'sound like'),
5. those sound waves travel through the throat and mouth parts of our vocal tracts and are modified by them, creating the second contribution to our vocal
    volumes, timings, and to what we 'sound like,' and also to the language sounds we make, and finally,
6. the sound waves radiate past our lips and out for the 'world' to hear.
 
Sooooo, Allie, less experienced users of voice for in-tune singing can be helped immensely--as others have suggested--by imitative sound-making and word-making voiceplay™. Notice that there is an element of a theatrical or situational 'story.'
 
One game: "I Make a Sound, You Make a Sound."  Ask the singers: "How close can you come to making the sound(s) I make as close as you can to the way I make them?"   With a wide-eyed wondering look on your face, you look at them and say, "Whooooooooo are youuuuuu?"  After they repeat what you did, then speak the same words several times (say, 5 times) with a different pitch inflection (and, threrefore, with different feeling-meanings--paraverbal communication is one tech-term for it), but keep the pitch range generally lower--in normal speaking pitch-range for kids.  Afterwards, if you choose, you can say, "That's the 'Who are you?' part of your voice."
 
A second game: "Calling Out to Other People."  Say, "Pretend you are walking down a street and you see some friends of yours walking about a block in front of you.  You want to get their attention so you can catch up and walk together.  Calling to them with your voice is about the only way to get their attention, so let's pretend that you make a sound that hardly anyone uses anymore, and you call out (use your upper voice or head register at least up around D5 or E5): "Yooooooo hooooooo!"  After they repeat, do some more pitch inflections in the "Yoo hoo" part of your/their voice, and then you can say, "That's the 'Yoo hoo' part of your voices."  Two finales for this game: 
 
(1) start on "Yoo hooooooooooo" and slide downward into the "Who are you" part of your/their voices (lower voice or chest register) and finish with "...are you!" [final syllable of 'Yoo hoo' is the first word of 'Who are you?' and the final word of 'Who are you?' is the first syllable of 'Yoo hoo.']  and then
(2) start again lowish in your voice on "Who are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?" and slide upward into the 'you hoo' part of your/their voices (upper voice or head register) and finish with "...hooooooooooooo!" [If you voice or any of theirs produces an abrupt change in voice quality--soometimes called a 'break' (not a helpful term)--that's just a voice register change that happens to be abrupt.  Melting, smoothing, or blending those two vocal coordinations called regsters is a fundamental skill of singing and speaking.]
 
As to another of your Qs, Allie, another approach to helping singers 'hold a vocal part' independently while other parts are being sung:
 
1. Use simple unison songs--hopefully with lyrics/text that are resonably meaningful to the singers--and you write a 'bass' line yourself that is mostly, but not exclusively, root-of-the-chord sustained tones sung on /loo/, /loh/, or /lah/, or other syllables. Half the group sings the melody, the other half sings the harmony, then switch. 
 
2. Singing a cappella, or with very bare accompaniment, makes for the most accurate auditory feedback for the sound of one's own voice and the pitch accuracy of one's own singing. When learning songs by rote, as soon as possible, fade your voice down and out and then sing only when there is a specific reason to give help.  Generally, when your students are singing, your job is to listen--not to sing. That also helps you maintain your vocal health. 
 
If you sing along with anyone who is learning how to produce accurate pitches, do sing along with them at the beginning, and orient the sound of your voice toward their left ear. To my knowledge, no scientific study has provided direct evidence for this, but it is true that the left ear sends a lot more auditory neurons to the right hemisphere's auditory cortex than to the left hemisphere's auditory cortex, and the right hemisphere is where the preponderance of heard melodic pitches and harmonic pitches are processed and where the initiation of motor coordinations for producing pitches happens.
 
3. Use a 4- or 8- or 12-bar series of mostly complete-measure notes in duple or triple meter as a 'bass' line in various chord progressions (12-bar blues?) with an occasional inversion, such as: 
I - IV - V - I; or
I - vi - IV - V - I; or
I - I6 - ii - IV - I - V6 - I, etc.
And write out a melody to sing over the 'bass' line progressions to be sung on various vowels or consonant-vowel combinations (syllables). Gradually, fill in other harmony parts?
 
4. in 6/4 time, ask one group (section) to sing a 'bass' line of dotted whole note patterns, such as : 1 - 5 - 1 - 5 - 1.  Ask another group to sing and repeat four times (scales on numbers or syllables) 1231.....  Ask another group to sing and repeat 1.....321  And another group to sing and repeat 321123.  For the 'fininsh,' everybody sustains the frst not of their pattern for half of a 6/4 bar.  Along the way, put them together in combos of twos, threes, and, of course, all four.  Make up your own such patterns, of course.
 
5. Create or find a simple, short, but interesting ostinato pattern with more sustained notes and write a melody to go with it.
 
NOTE: I highly recommend a summer course to you that will address nearly all the wonderments that you have, including working with your own and others' voices, in general, for efficient/healthy singing and speaking, working with prepubescent children and male and female adolescent changing voices, how voices are made and how they are 'played' as people grow in their voice and expressive skills, and how to rehearse choirs and conduct them in a way that elicits healthy, expressive singing, and learning methods that increase musical/vocal independence in singers.  It's a course called "Lifespan Voice Education in the Real World" and has been presented each summer by The VoiceCare Network for 30 years (as of this coming summer; grad credit available).  One warning, though: If you just can't stand to laugh a lot and pleasantly learn a lot at the same time, well...be careful.  Go to: www.voicecarenetwork.org
 
The sourcebook for the course is Bodymind and Voice: Foundations of Voice Education.  It's among the most comprehensive books on voice, voice education, voice health, voice growth, and arranging music/voice learning situations that optimize the chances that students/singers will choose to continue singing for a lifetime because they love it. The course is hands-on and definitely addresses all the above. It's rather unique, in my opinion.
[Yes, I started the courses, but am now retired from them, and...I am principal author and co-editor of the book. The co-editor, and also an author, is a Brit friend of mine, Graham Welch, who is an international expert and researcher on how children learn to sing (and many other topics), and there are 16 other authors including 5 medical docs, a speech pathologist, an audiologist, an early childhood specialist, an Alexander Technique teacher, another child voice specialist, a male adolescent voice specialist, a female adolescent voice specialist, and four other voice, choral, and music education specialists.] Go to the same link above for info and ordering, if you choose to.
 
I completely agree with John: Never apologize for asking questions. It's a sign of superior intelligence, in fact.  "The admission of ignorance is the beginning of knowledge." (can't remember who said that, but it is soooo true.)
 
Hope this helps, Allie. Happy New Year!!!!
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