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9th/10th Choir Discipline Issues

Dear All,
 
I am having a very tough year with my Concert Choir, an ensemble of 9th and 10th grade students. We had 85 students select this ensemble, but unfortunately, the administration, instead of running two sections of the class, cut out 20 students and placed the remaining 65 in one period. I was given 45 boys and 20 women.
 
The discipline issue this year have been staggering. Though I give a contract, expectations, and try to be consistent with discipline, the group seems very immature and talking and disruptions abound. We have not accomplished nearly as much as I would like. I try to keep my pacing fast, have students stand to sing when working sections, students sing across parts, as well as take small rhythmic tasks when reviewing new music. Despite my efforts, the production is poor, the attention of the students is almost non-existent, and the discipline issues are at times unmanageable, even with calls home and discipline referalls.
 
Some of my colleagues in the school have said that we are just encountering a very unmotivated and emotionally immature class. I tend to believe there is potential in all students. So my questions are: #1 What suggestions do you have for this kind of group with such an unbalanced make-up? #2 What advise do you have for me to keep my sanity and optimism with the students? and #3 What kind of motivational activities would you gear towards these students, including fun music/warm-up activities to motivate?
 
Thank you in advance!
 
Peter Isherwood
Middletown HS North, NJ
Oboe32(a)aol.com
on March 10, 2010 9:16am
Peter:  One strong suggestion:  "Choral Charisma" by Tom Carter.  And since Tom's on the list, he may contact you as well with immediate suggestions.
 
But I'm more concerned with your first paragraph.  Your administration decides who will be in choir?  How can you possibly function that way?!!!  And you also say that students "selected" Concert Choir.  That should be reassuring, but instead it tells me that you have no auditions and ask for no buy-in from your students, who may indeed consider it to be play-time.
 
Perhaps for starters you should be lobbying to structure your choirs by accomplihment rather than by grade level, as a motivation to participate and improve as the only way to move into more select ensembles.  It can work wonders.  And it absolutely requires auditions, even if they have to be in the spring and will miss out on transfer students who show up in the fall.  Make it prestigious to "make" choir, not just recess!
 
I'm not the one to be giving you advice, since I teach mostly-serious college students, but in my late wife's Kodaly classes she learned NEVER to give them an instant free to get into trouble, but to take charge COMPLETELY and move so fast through your class that they hardly have time to take a breath.  Idle hands and idle brains and all that kind of thing!
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 10, 2010 3:01pm
Peter,
 
I'm grateful to John for bringing up my book as an option (its first chapter explores how to create a Safe and Supportive environment).
 
I also have a (new and improved) website, which includes a page about classroom management ("Safety First"). It's an extensive and practical look at the issue, and includes some ideas not found in the book.
 
All my best,
 
Tom
on March 11, 2010 5:55am
Peter:  I agree very much with John's statement.  It sounds like your administration is your biggest problem.  You failed to say how long you have been at this school.  Is this a program or an  attitude about choir at your school that was there before you?  What do the students in the school think about choir?  What you have now is not a choir but a general music class.
 
To me, choir membership should always be by audition.  It is you who should have the final say about your choir classes.  After the audtion, a list of students should be given to your registrar.  It is great that you had enough interest to fill two classes.  But, the admin. is in great need to know how a choir works. 
 
I am not sure what I would recommend for the rest of this year.  The book that was suggested sounds great.  However, you should be spending a lot of time talking and educating the admin. about what you need for next year.  If that's not how it works in your school, I would find a school where it does.  Good Luck!!
 
Tom Council
Dallas, Tex.
 
 
on March 28, 2010 6:51pm
I agree with John's last paragraph especially...sing/be doing something from the late bell to the dismissal bell.
 
I think behavior contracts are great.  I just recently experimented with having my students set expectations.  I did this with both my advanced group and my 9th grade class.  I was suprised at how much more they were willing to set the bar at a high level than I thought was possible or even neccesary.  This gives them ownership, and so far it is working well.
 
I assume that your school has a handbook with rules and consequences.  I would live by it.  I will dole out the same discipline to the All-State senior as I do the 10th grade jokester.  The kids know it is all business and the rules are going to be enforced.
 
I understand where Tom is coming from, but I thnk there are very few adminstrators that will care how a choir is supposed to be set up.  And to the admins defense they have a heck of a job scheduling classes, being sure that kids are getting everything they need to graduate, and doing all of this under the every changing rules of NCLB and graduation requirments.  Approccing the admin is not a bad idea, but go in with very positive suggestions on how to make the entire situation better, rather than "this isn't working for me."
 
Good luck.  And FWIW I am envious of the 45 men!  Could be a great oppotunity to let your women do some independent work while you do some men's choir repetoire and you could definately do some cool pieces with divisi in the men's parts. 
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