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Rehearsal schedule/fee for Carmina Burana?

I've been asked to reprise a performance I conducted last year of Carmina Burana.  We had about 60 singers in the chorus, and used the chamber score with two pianos and percussion ensemble of 5 (should be 6, but we made do with 5 and replaced the gong with a snare drum!!!).  This is for an outdoor festival (with fire dancers!). Many, though probably not all, of the singers and players have performed this together before...though the previous time was a little by the seat of our pants for a number of reasons I won't go into here, and I for one would welcome the chance to present a more polished performance (where, for example, we're not waiting for the stage to be built to hold rehearsals!)
 
My question is...how many rehearsals do you think this would take with the choir, the instrumental ensemble, and both combined?  And any idea what the conductor's fee would be?  Last time this was pretty much a labor of love.
This time we have a chance to have an actual, though not extravagant, budget.  I'm being asked what I would require financially to do this, and as I've never been quite in this position before, thought I'd ask fro help from the choralnet folks.  I came up with a rough idea of eight rehearsals with choir, two or three with full ensemble, and dress. (I"m also not counting any additional rehearsals with dancers besides the dress).  Most of the singers are of the caliber of a city symphony chorus and can expect to have their music learned by rehearsal time, (especially since most, if not all, of them performed last year).  Any feedback or ideas? This is in Oregon, BTW, not an area known for its high wages, though the organization contracting us is out of the Bay Area. 
 
Thanks!
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on March 24, 2010 9:26pm
Lisa:  Can't help you with the number of rehearsals needed.  We did it here several years ago, but I wasn't conducting.  And we used full orchestra.
 
But as far as the instrumentalists go, I assume that you have a union local there and that there is a union scale for union musicians, so that should answer that part of your question.  If you're using a non-union orchestra, there should still be a local or regional rule of thumb regarding how much musicians work for.  But remember that you're using a minimum number of instrumentalists, which puts more responsibility on each of them, so they should be paid more than the minimum acceptable amount.
 
Your fee is strictly a matter of negotiation, so ask what your skills and preparation are worth!  For your singers, I really don't have a clue.  But you really need the ones who already know the music, so ask how much they feel they want to be paid.  Just for a bargaining figure, see whether they'll do the whole thing for $150 apiece, and be prepared to go to at least $200.  You want enthusiastic singers, not grudging ones!
 
All the best,
 
John
 
 
on March 25, 2010 10:47am
Thanks, John!
 
The singers are going to be volunteer...if we paid them $200, that would be $12,000 for chorus alone, at 60 people!
The instrumentalists are skilled students from the university music dept. One of them is in the union and is calculating their
fees.  I just need to figure out my fee, and am used to working for schools, churches, or on projects that I myself organize. 

I threw out a figure of $10,000 for the whole project, as a very rough ball park.  There are instrument rental fees to consider as well. (Last time we borrowed timpani, choral shell, percussion etc. from local high schools).  
 
I guess a good model for this might be conductors who "guest conduct" for specific programs....anyone out there can
share their experience with that?

Thanks!
 
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