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Problem with cutting off editing

To the ListMoms:
 
Once again, I've been cut off in the middle of editing a moderately long message, with a screen that says I'm not authorized to edit my post.
 
I assume that means that a moderator has taken over and is "moderating" my message even though it isn't finished and isn't ready to go yet.
 
That is MOST annoying!  Would it be possible to ask the moderators to hold off until there's been no activity on a message for, say, at least 10 or 15 minutes?
 
John
Replies (9): Threaded | Chronological
on October 15, 2010 9:26am
Interesting. Was this the jazz post? It wouldn't/shouldn't appear in the moderation queue until after you hit submit. Did you submit it and then go back to edit it? I'm sure Allen will be able to shed some light.

Frank

on October 15, 2010 10:40am
Sure, I had to hit submit in order to read it, in order to edit it.  And yes, I then started going back to edit, which is the only way it can be done on the general message screens.  (On the Announcements there is SOMETIMES a choice between View (or whatever it's called) and Submit, but that choice isn't available for general messages.)  And of course there is NO opportunity to edit private replies.  Click Submit and they're gone forever.
 
It does seem a bit odd to have one procedure for one kind of message and a different procedure for other types.
 
John
on October 15, 2010 11:32am
In the long run, there are two ways we can address this:
  • A preview feature for replies
  • Awareness by the system that you have an editing window open for this reply and prevent moderation action until you're done.
Both of these are pretty tricky to implement and have potential side effects.
 
In the short run, if this happens, click Back on your browser, and assuming that takes you back to the editing window with your changes, select-all and copy it and email it to me or the moderator on duty, or (probably easier) create a new reply to the thread with the revised content and submit it, with a note asking that it replace your original reply.
on October 15, 2010 3:06pm
Okay, I'm testing a reply preview feature right now; in fact I previewed this reply before submitting it. Look for this in the next software upgrade, probably in the next couple of weeks.
on October 15, 2010 12:42pm
Why not just re-read your message and make your edits before clicking the Submit button?
on October 15, 2010 8:23pm
Hi, Frank, and that's logical question.  The answer is that I sometimes write more than one paragraph (as you've probably noticed!), and it's just plain annoying to try to read something in the little, non-expanding rectangle that's all we get to compose messages in.  Someone clearly thought that was sufficient room.  It isn't always, and I like to see what I've written and not just little pieces of it.  I catch lots more typos that way, although I can't tell you why.
 
That was recognized by whoever programmed the interface for sending announcements, where there's both a reading version and and an editing version on screen at the same time.  That would solve the problem.
 
John
on October 17, 2010 2:34pm
The editing window is supposed to be resizeable, but that might not work on all browsers. But anyway, as I mentioned above we'll have a preview feature for forum replies shortly.
on October 17, 2010 7:34pm
Hah!!!  It is indeed resizeable!  Has that been added since the original release?  I'd never noticed it because I never thought to look.
 
Using Firefox (after using Netscape for a very long time), on Mac OS 10.6.
 
John
on October 16, 2010 12:12am
I like to review my submissions too. My preferred way is to write and review them in a separate text editor on my PC. I use WordPad and I daresay there is a Mac equivalent. Only when I'm content with the content do I copy the lot into the ChoralNet reply box.
If that fails, my other trick is to live in a different time-zone and send submissions while the moderators are asleep.
Yes, a preview facility would be nice, for checking links, pictures and things. But if it is awkward to implement then I can live without it.
    Nigel.
 
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