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The Sight Reading Project

Dear Friends, I have been making progress with a site designed with the choral classroom in mind. I would appreciate some feedback on the public portions of the site which allow users access to all except music entry and creating learning communities. I am hoping to leave this testing phase by January when we can all pitch in to make an awesome resource for all! Thanks in advance for checking it out... http://thesightreadingproject.com Sincerely, kevin
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on November 11, 2010 10:18am
I've taken a quick glance at your site. It looks VERY interesting. I,however, teach in a school where we DON'T have a projector system in our classroom. This might be some equipment that we could purchase if funds allow (fund-raising and such.) Does your material require website access or could it be put onto a cd or dvd and used with a stand alone, not Internet based computer? It is definitely an idea I would pursue if it were to be possible.
 
Debbie
on November 11, 2010 1:54pm
Right now (and for the foreseeable future), the site does require an internet connection, and it is not a stand-alone program.  If I have the resources in the future, I would consider the idea of a stand-alone program, but for now, I am the whole operation with plenty to do!   Thanks for the feedback!
 
Kevin
on November 11, 2010 12:39pm
Hi Kevin,
 
I took a look at the site and found it interesting. I have two questions.
 
1)   With the solfege focus, are you considering a connection with Kodaly curriculum or is this something that would be an option for future members?   
 
2)  What is your vision for use in the choral classroom?  Would examples be projected?  Would they be printed out? 
 
Look forwards to seeing how it develops
 
James
on November 11, 2010 7:37am
Hi James,
 
I started working on this idea about 10 months ago.  I, like most in our area, have a projector system in my classroom, which had replaced by old overhead sight-reading materials.  Like most, it was frustrating to use a doc-cam because of the limited font size, system changes and page turns.  So I set about creating a tool that would deliver the sight-reading materials over the projector to the class in a much more usable way.  I've always liked teaching from a single source (on a projected screen) because we can better control what kids and looking at...  (unlike handing them paper and expecting them to know how to find their part, scan and decode.)  Eventually, yes, you have to transition students to paper (before any evaluations or such.)  But I've already found that the transition is easy for them, and the pitch and rhythmic concepts transfer.
 
I can't really say the one way to use the site, as I've tried to make it open to an educator.  The way I have used it with my recent new school is to read in three passes with the students.  First "read" with all solfege syllables, second with tonic triad, last without any syllables.  The rate at which my students picked up reading was faster than I ever experienced before...  It also helps that there is an easy way to click your way through to exercises without the classroom management issue of turning your back and giving "down-time" to write or edit your traditional white-board delivery.  With an account, I can then place exercises I use in class in my "community page" for my students who may want outside practice.
 
To kind of answer your first question, I haven't really thought about making the connection, but I have had a few fun debates with my peers on the whole la-minor thing.  I guess my educational prejudices lean me handily toward Kodaly.  My hope is that the site can succeed to a point to begin to bring more consensus on (my opinion) the best pedagogy for sight-singing, and to have a resource that everyone can build upon and support educators in their move to or continued use of solfege.
 
Thanks for writing back!
-Kevin
on November 11, 2010 4:51pm
Kevin,
 
Thanks for sharing your work! I'll admit I've spent very little time on your site, but I do have a question or two.
 
Would I need to be on the internet in order to use the exercises or are they something you make and download from the site?
 
I went to MS 1 exercises and played with the first couple. Is that the only way to view and use the exercises? I appreciate that it works its way to keep the current note on the left so students can read ahead, but wonder if it's narrow view helps or hinders the reading. I can see that guiding each students view like that would help keep them in the right spot and reading ahead. However, is there a point in which get to see the whole exercise and move ahead on their own.
 
Does that make sense? Not a big deal, just a thought I had. Thanks again.
on November 11, 2010 3:13pm
Yes, it does require an internet connection, and yes, the 'reader' page is the way to view the exercises.
 
The music "frame" has a scroll bar at the bottom if you want to preview the exercise with your students before clicking the "start exercise" button to perform it.  
 
I've had the "left" position of the current beat brought up with the first group of music teachers I presented this to...  That decision to move it so far left is based on my experience as a pianist and accompanist, where honestly, looking back is bad (at least until your done!)  I wanted to force forward scanning, even though students would be missing the error detection loop of scanning backwards in the event of a mistake.  I put strong emphasis on read-ahead purposely, and I want to encourage students not to stop when they do make mistakes.  If it is a sticking point, I may move it further to the right in the viewer.  It may also help to increase the 'zoom'-level of your browser to best fit the music pane to the screen (I do!)  Use Ctrl-'+' and Ctrl-"-" in firefox, chrome, etc. to adjust the size to suit your needs.
 
Thanks,  Kevin
on November 13, 2010 12:05pm
Kevin,
 
I just had the opportunity to view your test site. This looks terrific. I like the tracking of the major beat units. The options appear to be endless. Will the projection eventually be full screen to show a larger number of measres?
 
Also, I would recommend use of the ta ka di mi rhythm symbols in some introductory rhythm exercises to be used by any age student with the idea to quickly remove the symbols to create indipendent readers.  I'd love to be part of the community once it becomes available.
 
Roger
on November 13, 2010 5:48pm
Thanks, Roger, for the positive feedback.  I imagine it was you that was on there a few minutes ago (slow night!), as I was just installing the option of Do-minor from the development branch to the live site.  
 
The size is what is it at this point.  With my projector at school, I sometimes use the zoom level of the browser to keep it readable on the screen for such a large space, and if I feel the exercise warrants, I use the scroll-bar at the bottom of the "music container" to look through the exercise and point out problem spots for students (or let them scan for them.)  
 
I will have to do some research into other rhythm methods to pick the most popular and practical among them (there are plenty out there!).  Our area of the country has pretty much moved to all number-counting systems, and I was going to start with that due to my own familiarity with it.  But I'm open to whatever, besides overkill, that will make this the resource I hope it can be!
 
-Kevin
on December 12, 2010 9:46pm
Progress Update:  For those of you following this thread, "The Sight Reading Project" is now setup for users to create accounts for themselves!  Thanks for taking the time!  http://thesightreadingproject.com/
 
-Kevin
on November 17, 2012 6:57am
I tried to create an account, but it told me my username/email already exists (I doubt it since this was my first time). My email is "MusicByLaurie(a)aol.com".  Then when I requested a password reset email, I got this error message: 

Forbidden (403)

CSRF verification failed. Request aborted.

More information is available with DEBUG=True.

 
on September 11, 2012 7:24am
Kevin,
 
Is this a website you are still working on and managing?  If so, I'd really like to use it for my students.  However, the site is not allowing me to create a login, for the sequencing feature.  I put the information in, hit submit, and it erases at least on of the fillable fields (always a different one!), and says my submission is not complete.  Do you have a "contact the webmaster" button on the website?  I can't find any contact info, not even in the privacy notice!  I just googled and came across this...lucky that I'm also a ChoralNet member!  Hoping to hear from you!
 
Jenny
 
on September 11, 2012 1:26pm
Hello Jenny,
 
Sounds like your organization might be filtering out the "recaptcha" field.  Make sure the site is being connected through https, and try from a computer that is not being filtered.  I know this is a problem through many school web filtering systems.  
 
Other than that, and without seeing what feedback you are receiving, I would say carefully read the feedback (there is always feedback as to what was missing or not accepted).
 
I did make it a little challenging to reach me on purpose.  I am very limited on time I can spend on supporting the site, being an active teacher and overly involved in many other areas of my professional life!  However, I have been able to interact with users through the facebook page.  Sorry for adding to your frustrations!
 
If you continue to be unsuccessful, contact me again, and if you can, send a screenshot of a failed attempt at registering.  Sometimes I see accounts that people mistakenly have a typo in their email which locks up their preferred username waiting for their emailed confirmation link to be "clicked" (which never arrives.)  I've had a few of those over the past few days.
 
Sincerely,
 
Kevin
 
on September 12, 2012 9:10am
Check out the Best Practices Suggestions on how to get the most out of this site.
 
On my browser page (Safari), I could not tell that "Best Practices" was a link.
 
 
on September 13, 2012 6:05am
This is great, Kevin - Thank you for putting so much time into this!  I have only explored for a little bit of time, but a small request (petty) - Would you consider using abbreviations for the syllables (do = D, re = R, etc)?  It's a small thing, but just a thought, as I know many teachers use this "shortcut" and it might help transition students to writing/reading syllables on their own.
 
I apologize if this has already been addressed and I haven't had the time to locate it yet!
 
Thanks again - this is a great use of the technology that I've begged for in my classroom!
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on November 12, 2012 7:40am
I LOVE THIS and so do my students!  However, I would like to ask for some assistance in setting up groups.  I have a login, I'm logged in, and have gone to the "create a new group", enter the info, click "submit query" and it disappears.  I'm not sure if I'm at the most updated pages, but I'd really like to make a set of exercises for my 2 choirs that I can quickly click to.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Jennie
on November 13, 2012 8:49am
Kevin,
 
We have been using this site since you first posted. My high school singers and I love it! Would you consider creating an option that you could take out the tracking. We have found that our eyes get fixated, and thus we do not read ahead.
 
Thanks for all of your hard work!
 
Meg
on November 16, 2012 6:08am
Is there supposed to be a metronome click to set the tempo at the beginning or is it just the visual blinking light?
 
on November 17, 2012 10:11am
I teach elementary and middle school general music and choir, and I love this site!  I haven't tried using it in my classroom yet, but I know I will, because it meets my own desire to help my students learn to sight read and my principal's desire to have some incorporation of technology in my classroom.  I'll have to mostly do things with laptops and iPads, however, since I don't have a Smartboard in my room.  Any suggestions for how to adjust practicing to individual work?
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