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Ready for Trial- Uploading Your Best Works

v.1/23/12-2
 
It is time to start the process to help conductors find our best works.  Please send in the info about up to three pieces you have written, that you think are performable and marketable and that you have all copyright permissions cleared.  In reviewing the legal end of me uploading something for you I have decided it would be best if you do it yourself.  It may seem like a difficult process but it is actually pretty simple once you have done it.  Anyone who can use Sibelius or Finale can surely do this.  Have a peek at what the final results will look like. 
 
Please read the terms and conditions on the Editor's only page.  Agree to the terms and conditions by uploading to the library.  The terms and conditions will be updated.  At that time you will need to email me an acceptance of the terms and conditions.  http://choralnet.org/305256
 
Library:   You will be working in the Library.  Use your browser's back button after you are done looking. Click here to view the Library.  This is just a storage space for your Sound Files and PDFs.  No one but us will probably be looking at it.
 
Pages: You will then be entering your piece's info as a series of data separated by commas in what is called the Composition Showcase Page.  Click here to see how others have entered their info. Use your browser's back button to return here. 
 
Finished Product: Take a look at what I will do with the data and files you enter.  Do not enter or edit anything here.  It is just to show you the way the final project will look.  Use your browser's back button to return here.  Look at the sample SATB Page by clicking here.
 
Follow these step by step instructions:
 
DO NOT DELETE ANYTHING OTHERS HAVE UPLOADED.
 
Step 1. While offline, write up appropriate text and assemble the related files for your works in the following format seperated by commas: 
 
Title of piece, Voicing*, Other Voicing Info separated by a space-not a comma**, Accompaniment***, Other Instrumentation information****, Difficulty (Very Easy,Easy,Medium,Medium Difficult, Difficult),Composer Last Name, Composer First Name and Middle Initial (optional), Cost (indicate per copy made by buyer, per copy made by composer, license to copy X many), Link directly to Purchasing Page (THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL! Link to page on your own website or publisher's site or give e-mail address),Notes or description-no commas!, Links-no commas,
 
if there is missing information such as no other voicing info, still put a comma with no space between such as ,,
 
Sample
Little Red Bird, SATB, Falsetto Boys Double Soprano, A Cappella,,medium, Senzig, Jack, $1.00 per copy you make from .pdf,http://bogusaddress.net/list/senzig,,,
 
Step 2. Log in to ChoralNet and reply to this post saying "I am ready to upload."  Check back later to see if I did step 3 for you yet. 
 
Step 3.  I will make you an "Editor" This gives you the power to upload files and edit pages.  I will reply to your comment "Go for it" or something like that to let you know you are an editor. 
 
Step 4. Click on Library in our community. 
     Step 4A. Click on "New Library File" 
     Step 4B. Name your file by its title, no .mp3 or .pdf etc (Example: Little Red Bird)
     Step 4C. Click on the "Choose file" button
     Step 4D. Select the proper sound file from your computer hard drive and click "Choose" (on a Mac) PC ??
                  .mid .midi .mp3 .mpeg .pdf only
     Step 4E. Click on "Submit" button.  If you choose an unacceptable file type it will tell you. 
Step 5. Click on the file name you uploaded on the Library page. It will open the file in a window. 
Step 6. Open an additional window in your browser and go to ChoralNet. (On a Mac type command N then type choralnet.org in your browser, then go to our community)
Step 7. Click on the "Pages" tab in Composers of Choral Music Community.
Step 8. Click on the "Composition Showcase" link
Step 9. Click on "Edit"
Step 10. Enter the information from Step 1 (title, voicing, accompaniment etc.) alphabetically by title. Do not delete someone elses work.
      Step 10A Copy the address of your sound file found at the top of the other open window containing the player for your sound file.
      Step 10B Paste the address of your sound file after the last comma, Best option: You can type the file type such as .mp3, highlight it, click on the link tool (blue circle with a chain in front) and paste the address
Step 11 repeat steps 4-10 except substitute ".pdf" where I have said "sound file".
Step 12 Click on "Submit"
Step 13 Comment after the editor's comment "Done"
 
There is some trust involved.  Please respect that while you are editor you could do a lot of damage. Please restrict your use of power to the project at hand. 
 
 
*Voicing choices:
Unison, SA, SSA, SSAA, SAB, SATB, TB, TTBB 
** Other voicing info (separate multiple entries by a space-not a comma):
divisi, Solo, Solos, Bass Solo, Baritone Solo, Tenor Solo, Alto Solo, Soprano Solo, Treble Solo, Descant, congregation, cantor, etc. with caution
*** Accompaniment
Piano, Organ, Keyboard, A Cappella, Instruments (if no keyboard, elaborate in next category****), Band, Orchestra, String Quartet, etc. with caution
**** Other instrumental information (separate multiple entries by a space-not a comma)
Rhythm Section, String Bass, Clarinet, Flute, French Horn,Alpen Horn, Bagpipes, Kazoo, Guitar Chords etc. with caution 
 
 
v.1/23/12-1 clarified 4D 1st time is a sound file, reminder added not to delete 
v.1/23/12-2 added descriptions of Library and Pages as well as look at SATB page's final appearance. Instructions clarified. SAB added.
Replies (86): Threaded | Chronological
on January 23, 2012 1:19am
This is absolutely brilliant Jack. I really hope that those of you out there who have contributed so much dialogue on this momentous moment will now submit. If this can be made to work, even in an embryonic form, it will revolutionise the dissemination of choral music. Hop on the bandwagon. You won't have to think that your work might have a chance in the marketplace if you got the chance any more - you will know exactly where you stand. Thank you Jack.
on January 25, 2012 8:35am
Of course, some of us enjoy the fantasy that there are scores of customers and commisioners dying for the opportunity to flood our bank accounts.  Reality cuts both ways.
 
Fear and trembling aside, it's great to see such a meaningful project taking shape.
on January 23, 2012 3:07am
Hi Jack:
 
Thanks for laying the groundwork for this! 
 
The proposed format looks very good.  But, I wonder if you have a suggestion for where one would indicate the language(s) of the text in a work, (or if you would want to set this up as a separate field in the future)?
 
Bob Applebaum
on January 23, 2012 5:20am
Thanks Robert, I will add two more slots.  Notes- for just about any other comment or description so long as it doesn't include a comma and Links.  I feel it is important not to make too many slots that many will not use as I want to keep this readily accessible as a database.  If there is missing info one must still leave a comma for it.  The links could also be used for videos of your works.  
on January 23, 2012 9:34am
Hi Jack!
 
Bob Applebaum beat me to the suggestion of including text in submitted pieces.  What is the text for Psalm 90?  Most folks don't have that by memory, but they might know the psalm as: "Lord, Thou hast been our refuge..."; and THAT may work with a particular kind of program they are preparing.  I opine that one verse of text should suffice better than ALL verses of a text, that is unless all verses are absolutely necessary to reach the climax of the words.  Many choral directors are searching for texts as well as for compositions; so it is a delight for them to find a good composition coupled with the right text.
on January 23, 2012 5:56pm
Wallace,
    I have given this some thought throughout the day.  Here is what i have come up with.  We are including PDFs where available for our works.  The text will be in the PDF.  You could even create a page of text at the start of your PDF although I do not know how.  
 
 If you really want to include the entire text of Psalm 90 you can put it in the notes section. I think it would look cluttered.  How about just the opening verse?  Look lower on this thread for what conductors and users will see. 
on January 24, 2012 9:47am
Hi Jack!
 
Again, my friend, I am proud of what you're doing for composers and conductors.  Frankly, up until now, composers have not felt like important citizens of ChoralNet.  MANY composers have been choral directors; however, it is difficult for a composer to serve two masters at once.
 
Your project has been on my mind.  Alas, a VERY important piece of information for a choral director is DURATION.  I opine that that factor should be included in the items of information, that is, unless it is too late.  It is universally understood that (3:00) means three minutes of time, so adding the duration won't take up a lot of room.
 
What ACDA membership fee should a retired professor of composition and self-publisher be expected to pay?  All of the ACDA fees have confused me.  My particular situation seems to be "in the cracks!"
 
Today, I'll write a page that is appropriate for "getting ready" to submit; however, I'm really confused about where to go when I'm ready to submit.  Do I go to Pages, Forum or what?
on January 24, 2012 11:25am
Thanks for the words of support.
 
I see this project as a bridge between the broken process for finding new works and the eventual Composer's Marketplace on ChoralNet.  This is just a temporary solution or better yet, a building block from which the eventual marketplace can be built. 
 
Christopher Ho mentioned in the original discussion about a Virtual Marketplace, that this would need to be a process with many steps.  He said that before the actual marketplace is implemented, we need to have a place where conductors could put up advertisements for their works.  That is in effect what these entries are.  They are not the complete detail that you are seeking, they are a hook to get the users to look farther.  I am glad you have brought up two very important elements that definately should be included in the finished marketplace.  Complete texts would be an advantage as would durations, tempo, style, Sundays of the Church calendar where the particular text is used, etc.   
 
ChoralNet has provided us with a wonderful working environment.  I am gradually learning to use the environment to our advantage.  I do not have any scripting ability or ability to create or manipulate text fields or place active buttons on the pages.   That level of complexity was never envisioned for a social network like ChoralNet Communities.  This project is just making good on the things I stated I would like to do in my vision for our community back in November 2010. 
 
Our members are of varying comfort levels using the tools we have been provided.  I am afraid that adding too many categories at this time will make it more difficult to get it right.  I will be pushing the limits of my programming skill to take the data entered and replace it in a more user friendly interface.  I will be digging out an old Mac that runs Hypercard, as Hypertalk is the only language other than Basic and Fortran that I am comfortable with.  (All you tech people stop laughing, you will spill your coffee.) The more commas, the more chance for error.
 
 I know your suggestions are to help everyone but at least for your own use you can place duration in the notes section.  I would recommend composers consider offering the things Walli is suggesting on your own websites.  Then when a user follows the link to your purchasing page, that info is available. 
 
For info on which membership to choose I would suggest calling ACDA.  The number can be found easily at www.ACDA.org, or read Julia Laylanders post about where to find membership information.  I haven't checked it out but I know Julia is thorough and won't lead you astray.  Just an aside, I am mostly a conductor and only a wanna-be composer. I have taken this on because I believe in you and the other members of this community and that what you have to offer should be available for the world to see, hear and sing.  
 
If you or anyone can get as far as uploading your PDFs and sound files to the Library, you can email me the rest and I will enter them for you.  jacksenzig3 (at) yahoo.com I would appreciate if you give it a try first and tell me in a personal message which step is causing you trouble.  Then I can adapt the steps to be more user friendly.  Also read my response to Lana Mountford's comment below. 
 
Sorry to write so much, hope it helps.
 
on January 25, 2012 9:48am
Regarding adding text to a PDF - I've used PDFCreator to add title pages to PDFs, but any text could be added.  It acts like a printer, but you have the option to "collect" outputs and save them as a group.  Takes a little thinking, but not too bad.
 
I suppose we could also consider copyright issues.  Depending on the version, the particular translation of Psalm 90 might be under copyright.  Of course, that issue applies to the setting of the text.  I don't know - has anyone ever run into trouble using a modern translation?
on January 25, 2012 9:51am
Oops - neglected the biggest issue.  Putting the text into a PDF file inside the database would probably not permit someone to search for text.  However, I really don't want to think about the search engine we'd need to handle a free-form lyrics search.  Ouch!!
on January 25, 2012 10:14am
Sounds like you are ready to upload.  I made you an editor so get busy!  We can always change it later. 
 
On the serious side, from inside the Pages people should use Find (command-F) on a Mac to search the page.   Anyone know what the command is on a PC? I believe that ChoralNet pages are crawled by Google bots, so a Google search could lead a user to your text.  
on January 26, 2012 11:19am
Thanks - I'm done.
on January 23, 2012 5:37am
I am ready to upload.
 
Thanks for putting this together!  Happy to be a guinea pig!
on January 23, 2012 5:53am
You are all set.  Notice that I added two categories since late last night: Notes and Links.
on January 23, 2012 6:56am
Done.  Thanks!
 
Here is some feedback after going through the process:
 
You may want to specify in the instructions that "editors" are NOT TO DELETE anything when they post.  It seems possible someone could think they need to clear the editing window before inputting their info, which of course would delete everything all other users have input.
 
Please specify in instructions that the first file they are adding to the library is a sound file.  I did a .pdf first, and then was confused when I got to step 10A.  Of course, I realized the order in which you create the library items really doesn't matter, but again, it might help others who are a little less tech savvy.
 
Thanks very much for all the hard work that went into this!
 
David
 
 
on January 23, 2012 6:54am
This is exactly what we need.  It was so refreshing to go to your listings, click on the pdf, click on the mp3 and then be able to click on the purchasing link right there! Thanks for being the first to try this. 
 
 
on January 23, 2012 5:48am
Okay, everybody, if you're like me and don't want to be the first composer to upload works to the new Library that Jack built with assistance from Allen S. (thanks to both of you!), for fear of appearing something-or-other, I propose that everyone who wants to participate but is shy about being "the first" reply to this message and say "I'm in!"  And let's all agree to do our first uploads this coming weekend, January 28 and 29, TOGETHER over those two days, and see what happens (I am assuming that most of us will have the most time to do this on a weekend).  I will if YOU will.
on January 23, 2012 6:33am
For those of us who are older or visually challenged and appreciate larger type in hard-copy form, here's one easy way to copy and print Jack's instructions for easier reading and use (for PC users):
 
Highlight all the instructions in Jack's post above (click and drag your mouse over the text--in my system this will turn it blue).  Release the mouse button (the text should stay highlighted--if it doesn't, try again).
Press CTRL/C to copy what you've highlighted.
Open your word processing program, and get a blank ("new") page up on your screen.
Press CTRL/V to paste the text onto the blank page.
Now use your font and font size buttons to change the font and font size to make the text most readable for you.
Print the page(s).
 
Also, if you are a computer whiz and would be willing to help other composers who may be less whizzy successfully upload their works to the Library, please post a message to that effect with your contact information.  That would help take some pressure off Jack, I think...
on January 23, 2012 6:57am
Once people are made an editor, uploading to the library is really no different than attaching a file to an email.   Thanks for your cut/paste 101.   My glasses come next week. Amazing how things start to go.
on January 23, 2012 11:23am
I am ready to upload.  (The Reply button finally appeared!)
on January 23, 2012 11:31am
Your good to go!  Remember to alphabetize on the Page by title including with David's uploads. 
on January 24, 2012 1:59pm
Greg,
    I found this excellent performance of your "The Tree" on YouTube.  Can I add it to your "Other links?"  I think a video is 10 times better than an audio clip. 
 
on January 24, 2012 2:12pm
Yes, of course, Jack, that is a great idea!
Unfortunately I don't know of any YouTube videos of performances of either of the other two pieces that I submitted. 
Thank you.
    Greg
on January 23, 2012 2:16pm
I'm ready!
on January 23, 2012 2:38pm
Hang on-- newby here...I'm clicking on the others' pdfs and mp3s but not seeing the purchasing info, other than what they have included on their cover pages. The info we prepare offline...is it included visibly somewhere, or is it for internal categorizing purposes? Thanks for your patience!
on January 23, 2012 3:48pm
You have the power.  
 
Click on the purchacing link that comes just before the mp3.  I saw that it worked for both Greg and David's materials.  The offline stuff is just so you can cut and paste onto the page, but if you have the address of your purchasing page as a http://etc. format, it will automatically become an active link when you post it.  i think the purchasing link is extremely important and that it takes the user right to the place they can order the piece rather than the home page of a website is key.  Of course you can list an email address if you don't have a website set up.  
on January 23, 2012 5:16pm
Hi, Joy --

It looks like the purchasing info is on the first page of the "Pages" section, included in the material that is prepared offline and then added in Step 10. It sounds like you were in the "Library" section if you were clicking on .pdfs and .mp3s. It took me awhile to figure that out, too. (I had assumed that all info for a particular piece would be in one place, and it sort of is, in that string of comma-delimited parameters created in Step 1.)

I haven't done mine yet because I can't decide what to charge. Once I nail that down, I'll add a couple of my pieces to the site.

Lana Mountford
Bellingham, WA
(who did software/database design in another life ... )

on January 23, 2012 5:33pm
Thanks for the translation Lana I completely missed Joy's question.  There are two features of the community environment that are at play here.  The Library is the place that stores the actual MP3, MIDI and PDF files.  Pages is where we are putting links to those files along with the title, composer etc.
 
I would also like to clear up that the conductors and other users will not be looking at the data as it is being entered in.  What they will see or search will be on pages dedicated to each voicing, SATB, SSA etc. and will look more like this: 
 
Title: A God And Yet A Man
 
Sound File: .mp3              
Score: .pdf
Voicing: SATB
Accompaniment: A Cappella
Other Instruments: none
Difficulty: Medium
Composer/Arranger: David Madeira
Cost and Method: $20 for unlimited copies
More Info:
 
Other Links:
 
 
 
Title: From the Odes of Solomon
 
Sound File:  Odes1and3ABC.mp3             
Score: OdesPC.pdf
Voicing: SATB 
Accompaniment: A Cappella
Other Instruments: none
Difficulty: Medium
Composer/Arranger: Greg Bartholomew
Cost and Method: $7.20 hardcopy for the complete set or $3 each for the individual pieces
More Info: A cappella setting of ancient religious text in English; received a Commendation in the 2007 Heritage Singers Composition Competition; a Project Encore selection
 
Other Links:
 
 
You can check out the actual page I made here. It has the first 6 entries in final format.
 
on January 23, 2012 7:47pm
Very nice, Jack! Now I can better envision what the end result will look like. Looks really good!
on January 24, 2012 11:10am
Thanks, Jack! All your hard workand bug-working here is invaluable to all of us. I'll get it down sooner or later :-)
 
Joy
on January 24, 2012 11:09am
Great! Thank you, Lana. This is starting to take shape for me now. What to charge...I'm confounded about that one as well...been looking around at others' info to get an idea.
 
Thanks again!
 
Joy
on January 23, 2012 6:52pm
Thanks for making this opportunity available to us!  
I'm not sure I understand the instructions.  I have done Step 1 and I am ready to upload. Am I doing this right?
 
Thanks,
 
Chris Humphrey
on January 23, 2012 7:19pm
You are now ready to move to step 4. 
on January 23, 2012 7:48pm
Thanks.  I've made it to step 10, but I don't understand 10A and 10B.  What
other open window?  The only window that's open is the Editing Composition
Showcase.

Thanks,
Chris Humphrey
on January 23, 2012 7:51pm
And, oh dear, I uploaded the wrong pdf.  I have gone back and uploaded the correct one, but how do I get rid of the wrong one?
 
Sorry,
 
Chris Humphrey
on January 23, 2012 11:05pm
Sorry, I fell asleep on the couch.  First the eyes...  
 
Is it the Chanticleer file?  Do you want to keep the one that says SAMPLE on it or the one without?  I can delete it or you can open the Library.  An x should appear after each of the files.  Click on the X for the file you do not want.  Read Lana's message below for the answer to your 10 A 10 B question.  No worries, this is all new to me too. 
 
The biggest thing is to get those files uploaded to the library.  If you or anyone else gets that far but has difficulty entering the info on the Composition Showcase page, you can email me the information and I will post it for you.  You can contact me by clicking on my name at the top of this comment and then click on Contact This User or email me directly at jacksenzig3 (at) yahoo.com.  
 
Good night all.  I'll check back in the morning.
on January 23, 2012 10:05pm
Hi, Chris -- It looks to me like in step 6, you're asked to open a second browser window, which you then use for steps 7, 8, 9, and 10. The first browser window remainsl open to the file you uploaded in steps 4 & 5. After you've entered the text into window #2, you'll copy the address from browser window #1, and paste it at the end of the text you entered into browser window #2 (on the "Pages" page). That adds the link for your .pdf or .mp3 file to your text file. When you've uploaded everything, you'll have 2 links at the end of your text file on the "Pages" page. Make sense, sorta?

Lana Mountford

on January 25, 2012 5:00am
I'm watching with interest.  I don't have an order page, so am precluded from joining in the fun for now.
on January 25, 2012 5:07am
Heck no! Just put an email address.  You may want to write it without the @ to avoid spam: jacksenzig3 (at) yahoo.com
Making sure that users know exactly how and where to order your music is the point.   
on January 25, 2012 2:43pm
Thank you, Jack, for this wonderful new opportunity to showcase our music!
 
I am ready to upload.
on January 25, 2012 3:11pm
You are in the driver's seat.  Can't wait to see what you upload!
on January 25, 2012 4:11pm
I was going to say "Ready when you are, CB" but I may have to use that line later if I can't figure out what I'm doing:-)!
on January 28, 2012 3:48pm
I've uploaded my SATB piece, "Night" but I now see that I'd like to reduce the number of pages of the pdf file.  How do I Edit this without interferring with anyone else's work?  Also, it seems that the mp3 file is missing.  How do I fix that?
 
I also plan to upload a couple of other works with MIDI files (sadly, no recordings Yet) so hopefully I will work out my kinks.
 
Wish I could figure out these things without having to come to you for help, Jack.  And Thank You!!
 
on January 28, 2012 4:06pm
No worries.  Just don't click on the x behind anyone else's sound files or .pdfs when in Library.  You might want to click on the x behind your PDF of Night that is currently in the library to delete it and then upload the new shorter one.  You can upload the pdf and midi files by going to library and clicking on "New Libray File."  Do the same for the other midi files and check the directions on the "Simplest" post in this forum.  My boss says I have run out of volunteer hours so I will be unavailable until after noon tomorrow.  If you email me I might be able to sneak back on early in the morning but shhh! don't tell her.  
 
You'll have to re-upload the mp3 for Night.  It didnn't work the first time. 
on January 28, 2012 4:25pm
Thank you, Jack.  Shhhh.
on January 27, 2012 3:41am
I am ready to upload.
on January 27, 2012 5:15am
You're all set. 
on January 27, 2012 7:07am
Thank you! I'm done.
on January 28, 2012 8:55am
I'm working on my input now. Thanks for all this, Jack!
I was wondering, if pdf and mp3 are already online, do you want them duplicated in the choralnet collection?
on January 28, 2012 9:08am
  I think it would be best if they were and here is why.  The value of this Little Marketplace is consitency of appearance and process as well as filtered or refined selection.  Even after the actual marketplace is implemented, I feel the Little Marketplace could still serve these functions.  If you or others feel strongly to the contrary, please begin a discussion to explain.  
 
You are an editor.
on January 28, 2012 9:35am
I've got various synthesized and performance versions of my mp3s, both excerpts and full length. Two pieces are multimovement and 25 to 30 minutes long. If I create one file it will be big! Perhaps I should just have excerpts and another link to full renditions.
on January 28, 2012 10:14am
Uploaded files are limited to 16MB, so your full-length files, if they are MP3, are probably too large to upload.
on January 28, 2012 10:14am
One user had problems with files greater than 6 MB but Allen Simon told me we are equipped for up to 16 MB.  You could put multiple files perhaps by movement with seperate links labelled mvmt1.mp3 mvmt2.mp3 etc or make an excerpts file and call it excerpts.mp3.  Be sure to leave a silence between excerpts.  Then in the more links you could put a link called fullversion.mp3 that lead to your website. 
 
Also the PDF's don't have to be the whole work.  You are welcome to put up an excerpt of the score with links in the "More Links" section to the full .pdf.  This is true whether you are having people purchase from a .pdf or not.  If the link to purchase page takes them to the full score that is expected.  
 
So long as a shopper can get a taste of what is available in the same format from entry to entry that works well.
 
Somewhat unrelated to your concerns,  don't forget that once you have uploaded an mp3 you can link the whole thing in your profile or in posts in response to repertoire questions.  
 
I am a believer that keeping as much traffic as posible on ChoralNet is good for us all.  Just as conductors trust certain publishers, the professional brand of this website is an advantage.  Of course links to more information or ability to purchase are also important. 
 
Hope that helps.  
on January 29, 2012 2:36pm
I am ready to upload
on January 30, 2012 10:14am
All set.  Sorry I missed your post last night.  
on January 30, 2012 9:07am
Ready to upload
Keith Perreur-Lloyd
on January 30, 2012 10:15am
You are an editor.
on January 30, 2012 12:54pm
Uploaded the score with no problem, but assume the mp3 is too large as I was returned to the home page after a while and the mp3 file is not displayed in the list.
Title: The Word. File size is 8,658kb.
This is a full choral symphony and would be my only submission.
Thank you.
KPL
on January 30, 2012 2:01pm
You are the second person to have trouble with a file bigger than 6 MB.  We are supposed to be able to upload up to 16 MB.
 
Solution 1:  Is it posible for you to break the symphony up by movements and upload them to Library, listing multiple files in the second to last comma separated field on the Composition Showcase page? i.e. mvmt1.mp3 mvmt2.mp3 mvmt3.mp3.
 
Solution 2: Make a shorter sample mp3 with just one movement or excerpts from several. Then in the more links section put the link to where the file lives on your website.
 
Solution 3:  Wait and I will ask Allen the Web Maestro to check on the space issue, which I will do anyway,unless he posts a comment very soon.  
 
 
 
on January 30, 2012 2:12pm
I have asked Martin to look into this problem.
on January 30, 2012 2:55pm
Noticed that my .mp3 files have been created with asuffix .MP3 under Properties, rather than the .mp3 fromat you list.  Perhaps it is an answer?  (I cannot do anything about this - as this relates to the software that was used to record the sound.)
KPL
 
on January 30, 2012 5:16pm
Sorry, no difference there.  There is a free sound edit program that I have heard is very good called Audacity.  For mac you have to do something to make it work.  If you want to use it let me know if you are on a Mac or a PC? I can't help if PC but there are probably tutorials on YouTube or elsewhere.  With that you could probably make a poorer quality version that would be smaller or make a shorter version.  As you see above, the ChoralNet worker bees are looking into it so if you want to wait we may have an answer for you in the hopefully-not-too-distant future.  
on January 31, 2012 10:23am
Hi Jack!
 
This is to let you know that I'm still working on the blog you suggested.  Due to time, my writing is done in ten-minute intervals.  Because of my present condition, I'm overwhelmed with "catch up" matters concerning music and living.
on January 31, 2012 11:05am
Walli,
   I knew you were dedicated, but putting music before living is a bit over the top. Don't stress about it, I just think you have something of value to say on the subject of self-publishing.  Your unique spin is thought provoking.  Get to it when you can. 
 
Read Walli's article on self-publishing here.
on January 31, 2012 4:41pm
Thanks, Jack!  It is this pride I've always had in sticking to my word!  What does stress me out is being helpless to follow through when I commit to anything.  Tonight I have 15 minutes to write.  Whoopee!
on February 7, 2012 2:56am
Allen
The work I am trying to load is an choral symphony for choir and full orchestra.
It is my only choral work.
The only .mp3 version is 16.9mb
The samples have .MP3 file format names which cannot be altered - and the choralnet system rejects.
KPL
on February 2, 2012 2:09pm
Jack,
 
I'm done uploading and editing offerings #4-#6 - Danny Boy, Too-Ra-Loo-Ra-Loo-Ral, and No Platonic Love.  I've entered by sales website as a link to avoid big and ugly.  The computer-generated sound files I labelled "Computer mock-up MP3", but feel free to rename them according to current preferences.  Same with my previous sound files.  Cheers.  Here's hoping the Marketplace proves a great resource for directors and composers alike!
 
on February 3, 2012 9:25am
Hi Jack,
I was able to revise my Traditional Christmas score for SA with orchestra more quickly than I thought, so I uploaded an orchestral score and vocal score and edited the entry on the new compositions page with the two links. I hope it was OK to put two PDF links in the PDF field.
 
I have a comment on downloading the scores. I was disappointed to realize that the downloaded files have a totally generic name. I find it hard to stay organized when downloaded file names don't really identify the file, soI make a point of including my name or initials and some descriptive text so people will know what they've got on their disk. Also, the downloaded file had no file extension, so my computer (Mac OSX) didn't even know it was a PDF file and wouldn't open it until I added .pdf to the name. I think this will confuse less computer-literate people using our showcase. If somehow the programmers could use the composer name, the title, and the file type when creating a download name, that would be good. I would prefer they use the name I used to upload, but that might be too much to ask, given the structure of the library.
 
Thanks,
  Pam Marshall
on February 3, 2012 10:26am
We'll get this fixed.
on February 4, 2012 9:22pm
OK! I've uploaded 3 SATB. I labeled the sound files simply .mp3-- please feel free to rename them "Virtual" or whatever the preferred term is now. Thanks so much, Jack. The pieces are entitled "Abraham's Test" Jesus" and "The Word of Our God."
 
Cheers,
 
joy
on February 5, 2012 7:54am
I'm ready to upload one of Helen's pieces (with her permission, of course).
   Nigel.
 
on February 5, 2012 9:13am
Thank you. I've finished. Jack, you have done an amazing amount of work to make this possible.
   Nigel.
on February 5, 2012 7:15pm
I am ready to upload - is there any chance I can still get these ready before your announcement tomorrow? 
 
Thanks,
Robinson McClellan
on February 5, 2012 9:30pm
You are an editor.  Short delay on the announcement.  It will be Tues or Wed. 
on February 6, 2012 3:09am
I am ready to upload :)
on February 6, 2012 5:52am
You are all set.
on February 6, 2012 3:36pm
I'm done - I think :)  Would like that the links to the pieces would be named .mp3 and .pdf instead of this choralnet.org.paint... and so on. Looks more cool. I haven't been able to reach one of the choirs for to be allowed to put the piece on the net, I'm pretty sure it will be OK but I'll let you know - tomorrow the latest if I'll have to change recordings (have another one but it's on minidisc)
on February 6, 2012 4:12pm
We're working on the filename problem.
on February 6, 2012 5:07am
Will it be possible to do this on an ongoing basis? I have some pieces I'd like to upload but I've been swamped with semester startup et al...
 
Thanks,
Robert A.M. Ross
info@robertamross.com
 
on February 6, 2012 5:56am
Yes,
   I plan on allowing new uploads on a continuous basis and even replacements if one of your pieces is not selling, you can put up something different.  The turn around time may slow down as other duties become more pressing for me.   The simplest form of the instructions may have to dissappear as it is labor intensive for me.  Still happy to do it in this initial stage of getting the showcase up and running. 
 
 
on February 6, 2012 3:13pm
I am ready to upload.
on February 6, 2012 4:28pm
Woo Hoo! More great music by Julie Myers!
on February 14, 2012 11:27am
I am ready to upload, baby!
on February 24, 2012 2:03am
Hello Jack,
I would like to try to upload my choral symphony MP3 again (16mb) , but don't seem to have editors' rights to add anymore...
Thanks
KPL
on March 16, 2012 10:42pm
I am ready to upload.
Thanks 
Rich Campbell
 
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