J W Pepper
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How Long are Your Elementary School Concerts?

I had a colleague give me critique that my concerts are too long and I might consider shortening them.  I have around 400 students.  Each grade level performs as a chorus on two fairly short pieces, grades K-5.  I have two auditioned choruses that also perform two pieces each. 
 
Please include your number of students and how you divide up the performance in reference to grade level.
 
Thanks
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on May 12, 2013 7:02pm
I taught in a school of 450 students (K-6) in the mid-1990s.  Most years I programmed several separate grade level concerts with grades paired together (Kindergarten alone for parents only, 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/6th) in addition to 2 concerts by my 5th/6th grade chorus & Orff ensemble.  Most concerts were musicals (many from the Music K-8 publication) that lasted 20-30 minutes with the performing grades doing their show for the rest of the school and parents.  The Chorus/Orff Ensemble shows were generally 30 minute shows, though my last year we did a 4 part medley review 100-Years of Broadway to which I added 6 solo features -- that show was 45 minutes to an hour.
 
I did one all-school production when the school had a big push on Earth Day and recycling.  I used the Music K-8 Earth Day show which included numerous short speaking parts breaking up 6 songs.  The opening & closing songs all grades sang with the other 4 songs sung by the grade pairs above + the Kindergarten.  Again the show was 20-30 minutes long followed by a tree planting ceremony in the playground afterwards.  For that show, we used the full width of the gym as our stage with grade pairs sitting in clusters and then standing when it was their turn to sing -- this avoided taking time to move groups on and off the stage and made the show flow quickly.
 
My school always planned shows to be performed in the afternoon - generally the last hour of school - that avoided students coming in and out of class and being "out of sorts" and hard to get back into schoolwork after an assembly.  The show dates were on the calendar at the beginning of the school year so there were no surprises to teachers about assemblies.  I tried to select shows that corresponded with curriculum for the grades so that my productions were an extension of classroom learning (which classroom teachers LOVED).
 
Jennifer
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on May 13, 2013 8:31am
I have done "elementary" concerts similar to what you are describing in the past (full school, multiple grades, a few songs per grade) and am currently involved with 5th-8th grade combined instrumental/vocal concerts involving all students in the school. Personally, I don't like concerts for even students as old as 5th grade to go too much longer than an hour. When I was involved in elementary concerts, we divided ours up so that only two to three grade levels would perform per concert, with multiple concerts throughout the school year. Each individual concert was around 40 minutes long. We paired up the younger groups who might have less material with older who would have more, to balance it out. It also meant that as a teacher, I was only dealing with a performance by a portion of my classes at a time, rather than every student in the school at once.
 
The amount of material you describe seems absolutely reasonable, but the actual length of the concert may or may not be - that could be what your colleague is referring to. Are your transitions quick and efficient, or is there a lot of time spent watching kids get on and off risers? Are classroom teachers or others helping you with the logistics portion (moving equipment, getting kids on and off, etc.?) My colleagues and I have been making changes over the last two years to make our concerts a much more manageble length of time (they were a bit long when I got here.) We have not cut the amount of music we are performing, but we have made lots of tweaks to our stage setup, method of coming on and off stage, concert order, etc. to really make things flow efficiently. Since we are also trying to establish expectations around student audience behavior, it helps to make the time a manageable amount.
on May 13, 2013 6:35pm
Thanks for responding.  Our transitions are very tight.  As one group leaves and the next takes the stage a student leads a sing-along.  Everyone stands and joins in.  The student body learns the songs in advance and the parents have the words in the program.  This is especially affective for the winter/holiday concert.
 
I hate to break the concerts into more than one because of having to hire accompanists more than once and the simple fact that some families have kids in more than one grade.  They may end up having to attend two different concerts. 
on May 13, 2013 8:40pm
I would share that dilemma with your administration and colleagues, and see if someone suggests a competent, dependable pianist who can accompany gratis, or for a token fee/gift.  It would be great experience for a college piano major, and her/his supervising professor might work with you on providing credit and helping to ensure that they're dependable.
But concerts that are between 50 and 90 minutes are not a crime!  ;)  Your sing-a-longs [great idea!] are involving them mentally and physically, so there should be basically no boredom.  Parents with children in 2 age groups can be urged to attend all, or enter/leave inconspicously during applause.  (You might prepare your song-leaders to cut some verses at your signal, if things seem to be running long.)
Perhaps a short intermission would give folks opportunities to use the rest room (elderly relatives/catheter-users may have this issue), change babies, stretch, etc. {Try to have 2 available - there is always a line in the women's ;/ )
Perhpas your colleague has not realized how many wonderful music/education/community-building phenomena are being carried out here:
1. Culmination of the students' learning.
2. Sharing/Communication with parents
3. Singing along with a large group
4. Ensemble skills:
     a - Working with you and a visiting artist (your accompanist/any instrumnetalists involved)
     b - Singing/blending with the other classes
5. Self-esteem and excitement of being a part of a large, significant event.
6. Quality community time (better than the youngsters roaming the streets/hanging out at the mall)
7. Opportunity/exposure for those with ability/interest in solo work/song-leading
   
   Needless to say, the development of these skills, and their culmination [your concert] do require some time.  Good things need not always be rushed.
Best Wihses,
-Lucy
 
on May 14, 2013 5:22am
Since your kids are singing a reasonable amount of music and you're moving things along swiftly and creatively, then this is probably one of those comments from colleagues that you consider carefully...and then dismiss. Unless the entire concert is adding up to be two hours long (I love Lucy's comment that "concerts between 50 and 90 minutes are not a crime") I don't really see the problem. (I'm wondering if this is perhaps not a *music* colleague?)
 
I will mention for future thought that when we broke the concerts up, they were spread out across the year, so although one family might be attending two concerts, they were months apart. Parents were perfectly happy with this, rather than one marathon concert, and again, it was much less stressful for me. Two grade levels in November, two in February and two in April. This also allowed us freedom to do more music since we weren't trying to put the entire school on one program - and we usually had at least one piece with Orff instruments and a movement/folk dance activity.
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